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Legislators Discuss Family and Health Issues

Renee Shaw hosts a discussion about family and health issues with State Senator Julie Raque Adams (R-Louisville); State Senator Cassie Chambers Armstrong (D-Louisville; State Representative Kimberly Poore Moser (R-Taylor Mill); and State Representative Adrielle Camuel, (D-Lexington).
Season 31 Episode 25 Length 56:33 Premiere: 02/10/25

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Panelists Review Legislation Affecting Foster Care, Abortion, and More

Although it’s a short, 30-day session, legislators working in the 2025 General Assembly have a long list of issues to consider that will impact families, children, and public health. Four female lawmakers appeared on Kentucky Tonight to discuss a range of such policy options from ending the sales tax on diapers, to exceptions to the state’s abortion ban, to addressing problems in the foster care system.

Media reports last summer revealed some children in state care had been temporarily housed in government offices. A subsequent review by Kentucky Auditor Allison Ball’s office found that 49 foster children from toddlers to teenagers had spent a combined 198 days sleeping in Cabinet for Health and Family Services buildings.

Rep. Kim Moser (R-Taylor Mill), who is chair of the House Health Services Committee, says the cases in question involve high acuity children who require intensive support for severe physical, behavioral, or emotional challenges. She says those needs make them harder to place in foster care.

“We need better funding,” says Moser. “This is not a new situation and for some reason we are not putting those resources behind this.”

There is also a provider issue, according to Sen. Julie Raque Adams. She says children’s homes Bellewood and Brooklawn in Louisville have cottages sitting empty because CHFS won’t assign foster kids to those facilities, nor will the cabinet provide an explanation for not doing so. That results, she says, in children being placed in government buildings, hotels, and state parks, or being sent out to four other states. Adams, a Republican from Louisville, says it costs the state Medicaid program three times as much to accommodate a child in an out-of-state facility than it would to keep them in the commonwealth.

One option before lawmakers to take pressure off the foster care system is House Bill 291. The bipartisan measure would help keep families together by allowing judges to order an alternative sentence for certain low-level offenders who are primary caregivers for a dependent child.

“It won’t apply to everybody,” says Adams. “This is for a judge to make that determination to say this person is a great candidate to have this kind of alternative sentencing.”

Allowing families to stay together when possible makes moral and fiscal sense, according to Sen. Cassie Chambers Armstrong (D-Louisville). She calls HB 291 “a great piece of legislation.”

“There’s a real cost to taking a parent out of a home and putting a child into foster care,” Armstrong says. “It’s a cost to that child and their life. It’s also a cost to the taxpayers of Kentucky.”

In some cases, a grandparent or other relative may take in a child who might otherwise go into foster care. But Rep. Adrielle Camuel (D-Lexington) says that places burdens on those family members who may already be struggling. She says every county in Kentucky has rates of so-called kinship care that are higher than the national average. She says HB 291 can help address that as well.

“We have the opportunity to make better policy to keep core families together,” says Camuel. “It’s a non-violent, low-level offense. Let’s not put this family through any more trauma. Let’s work on helping them correct mistakes.”

The Continuing Debate Over Abortion Access

Lawmakers have filed multiple bills to provide exceptions to the state’s ban on abortions. Both the House and Senate have proposals that include options like allowing the procedure for victims of rape or incest, in cases where the life of the mother is at risk, or where a fetus may be nonviable.

Moser says House Republicans have “great compassion” for victims of sexual violence, yet they remain committed to protecting the unborn. She says they are open to clarifying existing protections for mothers so that doctors know how to handle life-threatening situations such as an ectopic pregnancy or a premature rupturing of the amniotic sac.

“We want… our moms to be able to get care in Kentucky if they have a crisis pregnancy,” says Moser. “If we focus on anything right now, I would like to focus there and really think about how to strengthen our laws around those areas.”

In the Senate, Adams says she’s comfortable debating these proposals, but she adds the majority of the Republican caucus remains very pro-life and isn’t prepared to have these conversations. She worries that ambiguities in the current laws make it hard for Kentucky to attract and retain obstetricians and gynecologists, which are already in short supply in the state.

Camuel says more than 70 Kentucky counties have no OBGYN or pediatrician, which makes reproductive and maternal care difficult for many people to access. She says a problem pregnancy doesn’t just affect the life of the mother.

“We need to... take a faster approach to it to understand the full impact that this has on women, that it has on families, that it has on children,” Camuel says.

Armstrong contends that the health of Kentucky women is at risk the longer Republicans resist addressing these issues. She says doctors are worried they may lose their medical licenses or go to jail if they provide treatment that could run afoul of the current laws. While she would like to see America return to abortion access that was available before Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022, she says Kentucky needs to at least provide exceptions for rape and incest victims and women with non-viable pregnancies.

“The voters of Kentucky… want us to be having conversations and figuring out some common-sense next steps, and I hope we can all work together on those,” says Armstrong.

Raw Milk, Fluoride, Diapers, and More

Other bills that legislators could take up between now and the end of the session on March 28 include proposals to allow retail sales of unpasteurized milk, to make fluoridation of public water supplies optional, and to test blood supplies for COVID-19 antibodies or “synthetic mRNA.”

Moser says she views the milk and fluoridation measures as being about personal choice. She agrees that fluoride has improved oral health, but she says there are other ways of getting it beyond adding it to the water supply. She also says there are real health concerns associated with raw milk, but she adds she would accept a bill to allow sales of it as long as the legislation required labelling about the risks of consuming unpasteurized milk. Finally, she says it would be too expensive to test blood supplies for COVID antibodies or synthetic mRNA.

Armstrong says she thinks these measures are more about politicizing science than promoting public health. She says children, pregnant women, and people with compromised immune systems can die from drinking raw milk. She contends fluoridated water not only promotes dental health but saves taxpayers money in dental care costs.

Another proposal that has House and Senate versions would exempt the purchase of diapers from sales taxes. Armstrong, the sponsor of Senate Bill 78, says families can spend more than $1,000 a year for diapers for just one child, which she adds is already a burden for almost half of families in America. While the exemption would cost an estimated $6 million, Armstrong says the state would more than recoup that money from other purchases parents would make with the money they saved.

The House version is sponsored by Burlington Republican T.J. Roberts. Moser says she doesn’t know how the House GOP caucus feels about the proposal, but she says it would alleviate financial pressure on young families without creating a revenue shortfall for the state.

For the fourth year Moser is sponsoring legislation to waive some prior authorization requirements that physicians must secure before performing certain procedures on their patients. She also proposes an effort to collect data on the health care workforce and to make it easier for health departments to provide health education curricula for their local schools.

In the Senate, Adams says she hopes to see passage of legislation to allow free-standing birthing centers, to require pharmaceutical companies to sell discounted drugs to qualifying hospitals, and to continue to control sales of vaping products.

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2025 Kentucky General Assembly Session in Review

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Abortion, Maternal Health, and Gender Identity

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Discussing Legislation in the 2025 General Assembly

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K-12 Issues Before the Kentucky General Assembly

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Mid-Point of Kentucky's 2025 Legislative Session

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The Economy, Jobs and Business Issues

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Legislators Discuss Family and Health Issues

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Freshman Lawmakers in the Kentucky General Assembly

S31 E24 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/03/25

Debating Legislative Priorities in the 2025 General Assembly

S31 E23 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/27/25

2025 Kentucky General Assembly Session

S31 E22 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/13/25

National and State Politics After the 2024 General Election

S31 E21 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 11/25/24

General Election Eve Preview

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Kentucky Ballot Amendment 2

S31 E18 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/21/24

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Progress and Challenges Facing Northern Kentucky

S31 E16 Length 56:48 Premiere Date 09/23/24

School Choice and Amendment 2

S31 E15 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 09/16/24

National Politics Heading Into the 2024 General Election

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Affordable and Available Housing

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National Conference of State Legislatures Summit

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K-12 Education in Kentucky

S31 E11 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/29/24

National Politics During the 2024 Presidential Campaign

S31 E9 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/08/24

Southwestern Kentucky Progress and Opportunities

S31 E8 Length 56:43 Premiere Date 06/24/24

State of the Media

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Kentucky's Constitutional Amendment on School Choice

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Previewing the 2024 Primary Election

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Candidate Conversations: Dana Edwards and Shauna Rudd

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Housing and Homelessness

S31 E3 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 04/29/24

Lawmakers Recap the 2024 General Assembly

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Reviewing the 2024 General Assembly

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