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K-12 Education in Kentucky

Renee Shaw and guests discuss K-12 education. Guests: Robbie Fletcher, Ed.D​., commissioner of the Ky. Dept. of Education; Rep. James Tipton (R-Taylorsville), chair of the House Education Committee; Rep. Tina Bojanowski (D-Louisville), special education teacher and a member of the House Education Committee; and Rhonda Caldwell, Ed.D., executive director of the Ky. Assoc. of School Administrators.
Season 31 Episode 11 Length 56:33 Premiere: 07/29/24

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Panelists Discuss Steps to Improve Assessment, Accountability, Absenteeism, and Other Education Metrics

As a new school year gets underway in the commonwealth, public educators face a familiar set of challenges – from teacher and staff shortages, to student absenteeism and misconduct, to academic issues.

The state’s new Commissioner of Education Robbie Fletcher says he wants to ensure that students have vibrant learning opportunities that not only give them an excellent grounding in the fundamentals of reading, writing, and math, but also teach them how to communicate, collaborate, and be resilient, productive members of society.

But one thing that can hamper student success, according to Fletcher, is the state’s assessment and accountability system, which measures a student’s academic progress and ranks the performance of the schools that teach them.

“Personally, it’s not about ranking schools. To me it’s about where did you get the child and where did you take them,” says Fletcher. “The best accountability model is how did you show growth for an individual child.”

The commissioner says the current assessment system generates “dead data” because it tests students every May but then doesn’t report the results until October — after the student has advanced to the next grade. He says teachers need more timely data that can help them adjust instruction in the present, not months into the future.

“There’s a lot of excitement there about changing accountability so it matters now and matters in real time,” says the commissioner.

Rep. Tina Bojanowski (D-Louisville), who is a special education teacher and a member of the House Education Committee, agrees. She says accountability that allows for immediate feedback would be powerful.

“As a teacher, I want information that helps me teach my children better, not something that we don’t get until they’re in the next grade up,” says Bojanowski. “As a policymaker and keeper of the money of the state, do we want to spend millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on measurements that do nothing to help teachers in the classroom?”

Bojanowski says such a strategy wouldn’t necessarily mean more testing, but hopefully more meaningful testing. Fletcher says teachers already use universal screeners and progress monitoring to track a student’s progress, and they could be folded into a new system of accountability. But that would mean getting schools to use the same screeners so that data would be standardized across Kentucky’s 171 districts.

House Education Committee Chair James Tipton (R-Taylorsville) acknowledges that the current delay between testing and results isn’t productive, but he says changing the system would be challenging.

“I think it has some very positive possibilities,” says Tipton. But he adds, “It’s a very involved process. We have federal requirements that we have to maintain.”

Tackling Chronic Absenteeism

Students can’t learn or be tested if they’re not in school, and since the COVID-19 pandemic, chronic absenteeism has grown into a significant problem. In 2018 about 5 percent of Kentucky districts reported high or extreme amounts of chronic absenteeism, which is defined as a child missing 10 percent of school days for any reason, excused or unexcused. In 2023, 77 percent of districts reported significant chronic absenteeism.

“It’s very important for students to be in the classroom,” says Tipton. “That lost learning opportunity can have significant impact on them going forward, especially in those early, formative years when we’re building foundational skills.”

Chronic absenteeism can result from a medical condition for the student, transportation challenges, food or housing insecurity, bullying, or behavioral issues. Tipton says the school closures during the pandemic left many parents thinking their child didn’t have to attend school at all.

Fletcher says an average of 30 percent of all students suffered chronic absenteeism during the 2022-2023 school year. He adds that students who are Black, homeless, in foster care, or come from economically disadvantaged families tend to experience higher rates of chronic absenteeism. Educators say the lowest performing children who can least afford to miss school are often the ones most chronically absent.

(Being absent from school is different from truancy,” explains Fletcher. He says a truant is someone who has three unexcused absences. A habitual truant has six unexcused absences. He says the courts may get involved once the child accrues seven to ten truancy days.)

The Kentucky Department of Education is creating an advertising campaign to highlight the attendance problem. Fletcher says if students know they will be missed by their friends at school, they are more likely to want to attend. He also says children need assurance that school is a place where they can dream and succeed.

“So that instead of doing something to a child, testing a child, we’re doing something with the child to let them know that this education system is relevant to you because we’re going to get you where you want to be,” says Fletcher.

Bojanowski says she tries to help her students address their basic needs and make academic instruction as meaningful and engaging as possible. But she says that still may not overcome issues that a chronically absent child may face at home.

“It’s hard from a teacher’s perspective to feel like I can hold parents accountable for making sure their kids get to school,” says Bojanowski.

A new law does attempt to make parents more responsible for ensuring their child attends school. House Bill 611, passed by the 2024 General Assembly, requires school officials to report to the local county attorney the parents of a truant child who has more than 15 days of unexcused absences. Once a referral is made, Tipton says it will be up to the prosecutor and judge to determine how to deal with that case.

“The idea is not to be punitive to the parent, but at some point, somebody’s got to be accountable for these children to be in school,” says Tipton. “Those students need to be in the classroom.”

Bojanowski says the new law will place even more burdens on struggling families without doing anything to address the root causes of absenteeism and truancy. She also says she fears some parents will just remove their child from the public school system and homeschool them as a way to avoid dealing with the courts. Fletcher agrees, saying the state must work to ensure that homeschooling doesn’t become a way for parents to avoid the penalties of truancy.

“One of the things I would like to see is how do we hold our homeschools more accountable,” says the commissioner. “I don’t want to infringe on people’s personal rights, but on the other hand, too, we have an obligation to those children to make sure they’re getting an education so they can be productive members of society.”

Teacher Pay, Recruitment, and Retention

Staffing shortages among teachers and other school personnel remains a challenge for schools across the state. Rhonda Caldwell, executive director of the Kentucky Association of School Administrators, says it’s especially hard for districts to find special education, science, and math teachers. When schools do get interest in open positions, she says they may receive only two or three applications and the candidates may not be best qualified.

Teacher salaries also remain an issue. Even with increased school funding from the General Assembly, Caldwell says many districts were only able to increase pay by 3 to 5 percent, while a small number of schools were able to boost pay by 6 or 7 percent.

“Our lowest paid teacher in the state of Kentucky was down between $33,000 and $35,000,” says Caldwell. “A 3 percent raise on $35,000 doesn’t go very far – it basically amounts to roughly $1,000.”

Even with a pay raise, she says many teachers still wouldn’t make a living minimum wage, which she says is $49,000 for one child and one adult. That may force some educators to seek work in districts that offer higher salaries or find a new profession that pays better.

Student misconduct has also impacted teacher recruitment and retention. Tipton says he’s heard of educators and bus drivers taking early retirement because of discipline problems and threats to their personal safety. He says more training can equip teachers to better deal with unruly students. Legislation passed in the 2023 General Assembly gives teachers and school administrators more authority to remove threatening or chronically disruptive students from the classroom. Going forward, Tipton says the legislature will consider measures to limit youth access to social media platforms and to ban the use of cellphones during instructional time.

Lawmakers are also looking at how to incentivize people to enter the teaching field and make it easier to obtain certification. Tipton says there is about a 50 percent decline in the number of students going into teacher training programs. Addressing recruitment efforts, he points to an innovative initiative between Western Kentucky University and the Nelson County Public Schools that enables high school students there to start teacher training before they graduate. Then those students would only have to take two years of college before they would be certified to teach. He says other districts are exploring similar ideas to encourage young people to pursue teaching as a career.

“I think grow-your-own is a big part of recruiting,” says Tipton. “School districts have all of the potential future teachers in their classrooms on a daily basis.”

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