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Kentucky Ballot Amendment 2

Renee Shaw hosts a discussion about Amendment 2 with Tom Shelton, chair of the Protect Our Schools Campaign and a former school superintendent; Heather LeMire, Kentucky state director of Americans for Prosperity; Jim Waters, president of the Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions (BIPPS); and Jessica Hiler, president of the Fayette County Education Association.
Season 31 Episode 18 Length 56:33 Premiere: 10/21/24

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

This weekly program features comprehensive discussions with lawmakers, stakeholders and policy leaders that are moderated by award-winning journalist Renee Shaw.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Panelists Offer Final Pro and Con Arguments for a Contentious Amendment As Election Day Nears

With Election Day about a week away, those for and against Amendment 2 to the Kentucky Constitution are making their final pitches to voters on the proposal. If adopted, the amendment could lead to significant changes in how primary and secondary education is funded in the state by allowing the General Assembly to direct public tax dollars to private school education. Under the current constitutional language, state dollars can only go to public schools.

Supporters have framed the amendment as about “school choice” because they contend it would lead to more and better educational options for Kentucky students and families. They say that allowing state dollars to follow the student to whatever school they attend – whether public, private, charter, or religious – would let parents, regardless of income, choose the school that best fits the needs of their children. School choice advocates also say increased competition from private schools would force public education in Kentucky to improve.

“It’s not about creating a (school) system or propping up a system. It’s about educating the students,” says Jim Waters, president of the Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions.

Opponents of the amendment argue that Kentucky public schools already suffer from insufficient funding. They fear that allowing tax dollars to also flow to privately operated schools would leave even fewer resources for public schools.

“Our public schools are already chronically underfunded,” says Jessica Hiler, president of the Fayette County Education Association. “We need smaller class sizes. We need money for that. We need more health services for kids. We need money for that. We have a teacher shortage. We need money and services for that.”

Arguments For the Amendment

For years, Republican state lawmakers have promoted charter schools as an alternative to Kentucky’s public school system, which they say is failing too many students.

“The Kentucky Summative Assessment was just released… and in that report a majority of our students still are not proficient in math and reading,” says Waters, “especially for our low-income and minority students.”

Without Amendment 2, Waters says the General Assembly can’t even talk about new school choice options for parents. But lawmakers have passed legislation to allow for public and private charter schools in the commonwealth. They also passed a bill to create a scholarship tax credit to help fund private school scholarships, but that measure has been struck down by the courts on constitutional grounds.

The majority of private schools that already operate in the state are located in Fayette, Jefferson, and Kenton Counties, according to Tom Shelton, a former school superintendent chair of the Protect Our Schools Campaign. He says two-thirds of Kentucky counties have no private school option. But advocates for Amendment 2 say that creating a funding stream will allow new private and alternative schools to open, giving more parents the option of sending their child to the local public school or to an alternative option. These private schools, they say, could implement innovative approaches to teaching that would better serve students who struggle in a traditional school setting.

And by creating state-supported educational savings accounts, vouchers, or other funding mechanisms, Amendment 2 backers say private school options would be open to families who otherwise couldn’t afford them.

“We believe that every parent regardless of socio-economic status should have that option,” says Heather LeMire, Kentucky state director of Americans for Prosperity. “Not every family has that choice right now.”

LeMire says public schools would not suffer if public dollars went to private schools. She contends data from other states similar to Kentucky proves that school choice works to improve education for everyone.

“There’s this misnomer that Kentucky is somehow unique and that the sky will fall if we implement this and our public schools will shut down,” she says. “It’s just not the case.”

Waters says Kentucky public schools have seen record levels of funding in recent years and have still failed to improve test scores and achievement gaps. He points to Florida as an example of a school-choice state where he says the public schools have improved because of the competition from private school alternatives.

“The opponents never want to talk about the performance of our system, and they never have really any solutions other than... more funding, and we’ve increased funding tremendously,” says Waters.

Arguments Against the Amendment

While the per-pupil funding for public schools known as SEEK has increased, public school advocates say it has not kept up with inflation. They also point to cuts in appropriations for other public school needs such as student transportation and professional development.

“We already have underfunded public schools where 90 percent of our students attend,” says Shelton. “Taking money away is not the answer to improving student achievement,” says Shelton.

School choice advocates say they want innovative education options for students. But Hiler says many public schools have implemented innovative approaches to instruction and could do more if they had additional funding.

Potential cuts to public education will disproportionately impact smaller and rural districts, according to Shelton. He says most of those schools already struggle for funding because they have a smaller property tax base from which to draw local revenues. If state funding for public schools goes down, he argues that local school board will be forced to cut staff or programs, or find more revenues.

“Most school districts are going to have to look at raising local property taxes and funding even more of the cost of the public education locally for the kids who are going to remain in the public schools,” he says.

Critics of Amendment 2 say many Kentuckians wouldn’t benefit from school choice because so many counties have no private school option. Shelton and Hiler also argue that private schools don’t have to meet the same accountability and transparency standards as public schools. They also can select what students they enroll, whereas public schools have to take all students.

Finally, opponents say the vast majority of school vouchers in other states have gone to students that were already enrolled in private schools, which has left little funding for minority or low-income students to attend an alternative school. Shelton also says the amount of money that Kentucky would likely be able to offer a student through a voucher program wouldn’t cover the cost of private school tuition. For example, he says a voucher for a student in Jefferson County would be capped at $2,700 a year, which is the amount of state-provided per-pupil funding there. But he says the annual tuition at one of Louisville’s Catholic high schools is as much as $16,000.

“The concept of parent choice is false,” says Shelton. “It’s misleading, it very rarely happens, especially for special education students and students in poverty. Those students will end up remaining in our public schools and will be underfunded.”

Watch or read Kentucky Tonight’s earlier discussions about Amendment 2:

Sept. 16, 2024, with Tom Shelton and Jim Waters as well as Randy Adams, a former principal in the Anderson County School district, and Matt Robbins, former superintendent of Daviess County Public Schools.

June 10, 2024, with Jim Waters as well as Kentucky Center for Economic Policy Executive Director Jason Bailey, attorney Chad Meredith, and Kentucky Education Association Vice President Joel Wolford.

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