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Tom Shelton - Henry Clay Center

Renee Shaw talks with Tom Shelton, executive director of the Henry Clay Center, about how the center educates current and future leaders on the value of civil discourse and compromise when engaging in public policy matters.
Season 17 Episode 16 Length 27:33 Premiere: 01/23/22

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KET’s Connections features in-depth interviews with the influential, innovative and inspirational individuals who are shaping the path for Kentucky’s future.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

Executive Director of the Clay Center Discusses the Nonprofit's Mission and Goals

In the wake of racial justice protests and removals of Confederate statues in recent years, the board of Lexington’s Henry Clay Center found themselves faced with a difficult decision: Should the non-profit, non-partisan organization that brings students together to explore public policy issues in a spirit of honesty, civility, and courage keep the name of a man who enslaved Black Americans and disparaged Native Americans as a lower form of life?

“It was a difficult conversation,” says Tom Shelton, who struggled with his own misgivings about Clay’s mixed legacy before joining the organization as executive director in August 2020.

Ultimately the choice of whether to retain the name of the Kentuckian known as the Great Compromiser came down to a compromise. The board and alumni decided to keep Clay’s name, but revamped the center’s mission and principals. Shelton says they also committed to further diversifying the organization’s board.

“We came to the decision that we had to be very clear that we did not support his views towards Native Americans, African Americans, or any other peoples that have been marginalized,” says Shelton. “But we did want to foster the good side of his legacy about what government should look like, about how we should work together.”

Now in its 14th year, the Henry Clay Center hosts annual gatherings of college and high school students from across the range of social, ethnic, and political backgrounds who come to Lexington to explore important policy issues, to listen to and debate one another, and then arrive at some resolution through compromise.

“It doesn’t mean compromising your values or beliefs. It means being willing to sit down and honestly and civilly engage in a conversation that leads to compromise that moves us forward,” says Shelton. “If you’re not honest, if you’re not courageous, you don’t have the conversations, you can’t get to that compromise.”

Exploring Policy Issues from a Different Perspective

The center’s annual college congress features one student from every state plus the District of Columbia. They usually gather in person for a week in Lexington and then a second week in Washington. The high school student congress is held in Lexington and Frankfort, and includes 50 students, most of whom come from Kentucky or nearby states. All students who are selected by an application process pay nothing to participate in the programs.

Although the COVID pandemic forced some changes to the 2021 gatherings, Shelton says the students still got to tackle some heady topics. The college congress explored the urban-rural divide in policy issues, and the high school students looked at access to health care. As they explore the issues, Shelton says students are often asked to argue policy points from a viewpoint different than their own.

“There’s no better way to understand someone else’s perspective than if you have to state it yourself,” says Shelton. “That requires them to have to listen… it’s listening to hear and to understand.”

Along the way, students are divided into teams that work on specific policy proposals. Part of their presentations includes showing how the members compromised to arrive at their proposal. Sessions are conducted by professors from the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration, as well as representatives from entities like the U.S. State Department, the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, the Council of State Governments, the National Institute for Civil Discourse at the University of Arizona, and the Institute for Civility in Government in Houston.

Students also spend time with current and retired policymakers. In 2021, participants heard from Kentucky Congressmen John Yarmuth and Andy Barr and from former U.S. Senators Trent Lott and Tom Daschle as they talked about how lawmakers do find bipartisan compromise on many issues, despite what is often portrayed in the media.

“We want them to understand that you don’t have to follow a label of a party, you follow what makes the most sense from a policy perspective, and there’s good and bad on each side,” says Shelton. “Government would totally stall and nothing would be happening if we don’t have some level of compromise,” says Shelton.

The center is reviewing applications for its 2022 congress sessions, which Shelton hopes will be all in person. He says students who participate in the organization’s programs on civility and compromise go on to work in a wide range of fields, from politics and public policy, to business and non-profits

“That’s the thing about civil discourse and compromise,” says Shelton. “It doesn’t only work in government; it works in any type of conversation in any environment.”

Continuing a Career in Education

Shelton is no stranger to policy debates. Earlier in his career he served as superintendent in Daviess County Public Schools and in Fayette County Public Schools. As executive director of the Kentucky Association of School Superintendents, Shelton worked the halls of the state capitol, lobbying for and against education-related bills with lawmakers of both parties. Before joining the Henry Clay Center, he was the director of external relations and partnerships at the National Center on Education and the Economy in Washington.

Given his roots in public education, Shelton says he is troubled by the incivility on display in local boards of education meetings across the nation, where unpaid school board members hear from speakers from the community who engage in sometimes aggressive and even threatening behavior during debates over curricula content, COVID protocols, and other policies.

“Being a school board member is the epitome of public service,” Shelton says. “To see them have to deal with some of the things that are happening in school board meetings not only here in Kentucky but across the country is very difficult to watch.”

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