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Rachael Denhollander

Renee speaks with Rachael Denhollander, a former gymnast and the first woman to publicly accuse Larry Nassar, the former USA Gymnastics doctor, of sexual assault. Denhollander discusses her memoir What Is a Girl Worth? and her book How Much Is a Little Girl Worth?, a faith-based resource seeking to inspire little girls to understand their value.
Season 15 Episode 11 Length 26:42 Premiere: 11/10/19

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KET’s Connections features in-depth interviews with the influential, innovative and inspirational individuals who are shaping the path for Kentucky’s future.

From business leaders to entertainers to authors to celebrities, each week features an interesting and engaging guest covering a broad array of topics. Host Renee Shaw uses her extensive reporting experience to naturally blend casual conversation and hard-hitting questions to generate rich and full conversations about the issues impacting Kentucky and the world.


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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

Empowering Girls to Speak Out Against Abuse

In January 2018, Rachael Denhollander stood before a packed Michigan courtroom to complete a heart-wrenching journey that had begun many years earlier. In calm yet powerful words, she gave voice to the trauma that she and some 250 women endured at the hands of longtime USA Gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar.

Denhollander, a former gymnast, was 15 years old and suffering from chronic back pain when Dr. Larry Nassar first sexually abused her under the guise of performing a treatment known as pelvic floor therapy.

It would be 16 years before Denhollander would go public with her accusations against Nassar. She would testify for two-and-a-half hours at his trial. At his sentencing hearing, Denhollander was the last of more than 150 victims to speak.

“I wanted to make it very clear why we got to that point, all the failures that led to that,” says Denhollander, “and then to be able to tell the world, ‘you can choose look away but you can’t ever pretend again that you didn’t know.’”

Denhollander recounts her remarkable journey in the new book, “What Is a Girl Worth? My Story of Breaking the Silence and Exposing the Truth about Larry Nassar and USA Gymnastics.” The Louisville attorney and victims’ advocate appeared on KET’s Connections to discuss her experiences.

Lifting the Veil on a Dark Secret

During the trial that made headlines nationwide, Denhollander says Nassar tried to justify his actions and pretend that what he did wasn’t that bad. When he apologized to his victims, Denhollander says Nassar “turned on the tears.”

But then Michigan Circuit Court Judge Rosemarie Aquilina read a letter that Nassar had sent her earlier in the proceedings in which the doctor blamed his accusers.

“It lifted the veil and it showed what an abusive manipulator looks like,” Denhollander says.

Nassar was sentenced to at least 100 years in prison on state and federal charges. But the doctor isn’t the only entity Denhollander seeks to hold accountable with her book. She contends USA Gymnastics as well as Michigan State University, where Nassar taught, are also responsible for allowing him to victimize young girls for years.

Systemic Failures Contribute to Abuse

Denhollander says physical, verbal, and emotional abuse of girls and young women is “an open secret” within the governing body that oversees competitive gymnastics in the United States. She says improper behavior among coaches has been documented since the 1990s.

“The very clear message they are sending is as long as you win, we don’t care what you do to these kids,” she says.

Even with the Nassar conviction and allegations of misconduct by other coaches and team staff, Denhollader says a culture of abuse continues. She says USA Gymnastics has promoted coaches who are known to be abusive. The federation also manipulates parents into accepting how their daughters are treated, according to Denhollader.

“There is an element where even the parents are conditioned to believe this is normal because it is so prevalent in the sport of gymnastics,” she says.

To limit parental knowledge, Denhollader says coaches separate children as young as eight years old from their parents at practice sessions, training camps, and competitions.

Then there’s Michigan State University, where Nassar worked was a clinician and faculty member. Denhollander says the school continues to refuse to independently review the doctor’s abuses, and has stymied a criminal investigation by the state attorney general by withholding thousands of documents on the matter.

Now she and other survivors have joined forces to push school officials to do a thorough review how Nassar was allowed to perpetrate these crimes for years.

“The attorney general can only look at went wrong criminally, and we know that a lot of the failures at MSU… they’re not often criminal,” Denhollander says. “So what MSU really needs is an examination that can go beyond criminality, that can look at break downs in communication, that can look at all of the things that went wrong culturally, practically, on every level in every department.”

But Denhollander says she has little hope that the school or the gymnastics federation will do right by Nassar’s victims.

“If you want to stop something, you have to tell the truth about it,” she says, “but both organizations are just consistently refusing to do that.”

Helping Girls Discover Their Self Worth

Denhollander has traveled the country to speak on sexual assault and advocate for survivors. For her efforts she’s been named one of TIME Magazine’s “100 Most Influential People in the World” and one of Glamour Magazine’s “Women of the Year” in 2018.

Yet she initially resisted writing a book about her experiences. Like many abuse victims, Denhollander says she struggled with going public about her story.

“When you understand how unlikely it is to get charges pressed and to get any kind of conviction or sentence that is commensurate with the crime, and then what it costs the victim to speak up, to have to relive that in front of her abuser, it helps you understand more why survivors don’t speak up,” she explains.

But she says she gradually came to understand the importance of being a voice for others who aren’t able or simply not ready to speak. She also says she been surprised to meet many men who have read her book and say they now realize how their silence on the subject has contributed to a culture that is abusive towards women.

“To hear other men say, ‘I understand now as best as I can why this is so traumatic, I understand why I have to speak up, I understand the dynamics to look for, and how I have to use my voice,’ that’s just deeply encouraging to me,” she says.

Denhollander also wrote a companion book for children called “How Much Is a Little Girl Worth?” She says she wants girls to know they are worth fighting for and that their intrinsic value is something that no one can take away.

“This was my book to the little ones that I couldn’t save,” she says. “We have to start teaching our daughters these lessons from the very beginning.”

Now a mother of four children herself, Denhollander says she would love for her daughter to participate in competitive gymnastics, but she says she can’t in good conscience allow that to happen.

“The problem is not the sport, the problem is how it’s done,” she says. “If she were to progress, she would be under the control of an organization that does not have her best interests at heart.”

Even with everything she experienced, from the abuse, to going public with her story, to testifying in court, Denhollander, who is an evangelical Christian, says she came to forgive Nassar.

“Ultimately what it boiled down to was coming to the realization that both justice and my healing, my identity [and] my self-worth, those weren’t bound up in what my abuser said or did,” she says. “And being able to get to that point, while it was a process, was incredibly freeing.”

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