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Marcie Timmerman - Mental Health and Wellness

Renee speaks with Marcie Timmerman, executive director of Mental Health America of Kentucky. Timmerman discusses her organization's work to help those suffering from mental illness find effective treatment.
Season 13 Episode 43 Length 28:03 Premiere: 08/24/18

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KET’s Connections features in-depth interviews with the influential, innovative and inspirational individuals who are shaping the path for Kentucky’s future.

From business leaders to entertainers to authors to celebrities, each week features an interesting and engaging guest covering a broad array of topics. Host Renee Shaw uses her extensive reporting experience to naturally blend casual conversation and hard-hitting questions to generate rich and full conversations about the issues impacting Kentucky and the world.


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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

Building Effective Programs to Improve Mental Health

Some 40 million Americans have a mental health condition.

But more than half of them won’t receive treatment because they lack access to care.

The national nonprofit Mental Health America is trying to change that statistic by working to get people who need help to receive the care they need before they reach a crisis point in their lives. Marcie Timmerman is the executive director of the Kentucky chapter of the organization. She appeared on KET’s Connections to discuss mental health issues. The program also featured Kelley Kitley, a licensed clinical therapist in Chicago, who has written a memoir about her own struggles with abuse, addiction, and anxiety.

Normalizing Mental Health Care
By the time a person with a mental health problem reaches the critical stage, they are likely to either be in a hospital or a jail, according to Marcie Timmerman. If they can be reached sooner, Timmerman says they can likely be treated with a simple intervention by a mental health professional or with medications.

So, why don’t more people get help? Timmerman says access is a major issue, especially in smaller communities across the commonwealth.

“We have major problems with getting our rural folks into the system at all because there’s simply not someone who lives and works there… to lean on,” Timmerman says.

Other factors that inhibit care include a lack of transportation, the ability to take time off from work to see a counselor, insurance that doesn’t include mental health coverage, and the social stigma that’s still associated with therapy.

“It’s not different than going to the regular doctor for a heart attack, or cancer, or diabetes,” says Timmerman. “Not everyone who sees a therapist is really crazy, they don’t always have an illness, they may just need some tools that maybe they didn’t grow up with.”

Mental Health America outlines four stages of mental health conditions. Stage one is a sense that something is not right, such as feeling blue for a couple of days. In stage two, those feelings deepen and last for a longer period of time. They may also affect a person’s performance at work or school, or impact their family and social life.

Stage three involves recurring episodes of severe symptoms and a serious disruption of daily activities. By stage four, the physiological symptoms are often paired with physical health conditions, and have the potential to lead to homelessness, hospitalization, incarceration, or even death.

The organization offers free screening tools on its website to test for a variety of mental health concerns. Timmerman says the online tools also provide guidance on whether the individual may need to seek help from a professional. At the earliest stages of a potential problem, she says people often simply need to learn some general coping skills such as how to regulate their emotions, or how to set proper boundaries with a family member or coworker.

From Victim to Survivor
Kelley Kitley knows what it’s like to reach a mental health crisis point. It started when she was sexually abused when she was only 10 years old.

“There was a piece of me taken that I’ll never get back,” she says, “and so many women and men can relate to that experience.”

When she summoned the courage to tell her parents about the abuse, Kitley says they simply encouraged her to put the incident behind her and not to talk about it. That led to Kitley developing an eating disorder. When that threatened her physical health, Kitley finally got the treatment she needed to recover from both the original abuse and eating problem.

Later, as an adult, Kitley suffered new rounds of trauma when she was assaulted on the streets of Chicago, and when she suffered postpartum anxiety after the births of her four children. Today, she is a successful counselor, mother, and author of the memoir, “MY self: An Autobiography of Survival.”

“I so want to break the silence and stigma of addiction and mental health,” she says. “It actually bothers me when people think that my life is perfect just by what it looks like, because it has been so far from that.”

Kitley uses cognitive behavioral therapy to help people overcome trauma. She says her own experiences taught her how thoughts like self-blame can lead to an eating disorder or other self-destructive behaviors.

“There was a lot of ‘It’s my fault’ and ‘If I only would have done this differently,’” Kitley says. “When we play that negative mental tape, we just stay stuck and more depressed and more anxious.”

But when life circumstances are viewed through a different, more positive perspective, Kitley says the person can evoke more functional feelings and behaviors. They go from being a victim to being a survivor, she says.

Connecting with Others
Trauma-informed practices are becoming more common among primary care providers and in schools and workplaces. Timmerman says Kentucky schools are training teachers and other personnel to help them recognize mental health concerns among students and be sensitive to the factors at home that may contribute to misbehavior at school.

“Often a kid who hasn’t eaten last night, who didn’t have a home to sleep in, who’s been couch-surfing between friends, that teenager is going to have more problems than the average teenager,” Timmerman says. “So let’s start addressing those core problems.”

Timmerman says it’s also important for young people to have a trusted adult that they feel comfortable talking to, whether that’s a teacher, an administrator, or a janitor or lunchroom worker. When encountering a traumatized person, she recommends avoiding phrases that imply blame.

“They’re learning is to ask, ‘What happened to you?’ not, ‘What did you do?’” Timmerman says. “When you change that conversation, that completely changes the way a kid relates to you.”

Many Kentucky communities do have mental health centers, but Timmerman says the state could use more of them, especially in rural areas. The commonwealth also suffers from a shortage of child psychiatrists, she says. That’s why she encourages people young and old to look out for one another and be open to the personal connections that can benefit us all.

“It’s easy to get very isolated… and forget to reach out to others and check in on those folks,” Timmerman says. “We say check in on everyone, not just the ones you’re worried about.

“We all have our black moments, and our bad days, and our rough times, and we all build from them,” she adds. “It’s what makes us stronger and it’s what makes us better people.”

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