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Aaron Thompson - Kentucky Council on Postsecondary Education

Kentucky is making significant gains in higher education. But, the president of the Kentucky Council on Postsecondary Education, Aaron Thompson, worries that legislation restricting diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) efforts at Kentucky's public colleges could lead to academic setbacks. Renee Shaw talks to Thompson about the CPE's budget priorities, recent degree attainment gains and more.
Season 19 Episode 15 Length 28:45 Premiere: 01/21/24

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Council President Discusses Encouraging Enrollment Numbers and Legislation Proposed in 2024 General Assembly

While Frankfort lawmakers debate state university funding, diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, and other academic issues, Aaron Thompson wants Kentuckians to know there’s good news to report about higher education in the commonwealth.

For example, Kentucky had the highest overall enrollment gains in postsecondary education of any state in the nation, according to National Student Clearinghouse data for fall 2022 to fall 2023. Kentucky saw 5.6 percent growth in overall college and university enrollment – a full percentage point better than the second-best state.

“We were the first state to actually bounce back in enrollment from COVID.” says Thompson, who is president of the Kentucky Council on Postsecondary Education. “The things that we put in place – policies, process, and actions – actually worked,”

What’s more, Thompson says, retention, completions, and graduation rates are up at state schools, and student debt has decreased by $4,500 per student per year. The state is also on track to meet the goal of having 60 percent of Kentuckians with a college degree or certification by the year 2030. The rate is now 55 percent.

Thompson attributes these successes to the hard work and collaborative efforts of council staff, the state’s public colleges and universities, and political leaders in Frankfort.

“The General Assembly and the governor’s office play an important part in that to do healthy bills,” he says, “to do items such as give us the budget that helps us to really focus strategically on what this state needs.”

Touting the Value of a Postsecondary Education

Thompson says his initial review of the new state budget proposed by House Republicans shows a 4 percent increase in base funding for higher education as well additional moneys to help schools cover higher insurance costs and asset maintenance and management needs. He says CPE will ask the Senate to increase that allocation as well as the appropriation for performance-based funding, which rewards schools for improving a number of student and academic metrics. He says state funding is crucial to helping students and families pay the costs of attending college.

“We don’t feel like parents and family members and students can afford to pay more tuition, so this is where the state, we hope, will invest in us,” he says.

Part of Thompson’s case to lawmakers is based on a return-on-investment study CPE conducted that followed Kentucky high school graduates through the next eight years of their lives. While those who only graduate high school may land a decent job, Thompson says they will need some kind of higher education credential to more fully advance their careers.

Those young people who do go on to earn a baccalaureate degree will make $1.4 million more in their working lives than those who only have a high school diploma. He says people with a certification or two- or four-year degree also are less likely to need public benefits like Medicaid and SNAP, lead healthier lifestyles, and are generally happier.

Thompson says all of that proves the value of taxpayer-supported higher education.

“For every dollar that the state puts in, the state gets a $67 return on investment for that person,” he says. “You will not find a better deal in the country.”

DEI Policies Under Scrutiny

Beyond the funding priorities, higher ed advocates fear other legislation before the General Assembly could derail the gains made by state colleges and universities.

Bills proposed by GOP lawmakers in the House and Senate would restrict so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives that are meant to address historic inequities in public education. In addition to ending DEI offices and training programs, schools could not have scholarships based on the applicant’s sex or race.

Schools would also be barred from promoting “divisive concepts” such as saying the state is fundamentally racist, or that a person of a given sex or race is inherently privileged. Institutions found to be in violation of the proposed requirements could be penalized up to $100,000 for non-compliance. The DEI bills filed here are similar to legislation recently passed by state lawmakers in Florida and Texas.

Thompson says that forcing a student or employee to subscribe to a divisive concept or political ideology is not part of public higher education in the commonwealth. He says college is about learning how to think for oneself, not being told what to believe.

“The DEI policy that we have to talk about that diversity of thought is about the highest level of critical thinking,” he says. “You learn more from people different than you than from people like you.”

Further, Thompson contends the current DEI efforts help the state colleges and universities close achievement gaps among and better serve underrepresented student populations.

“We have to meet the students where they’re at,” he says. “We don’t do that based purely on race. We do it based on their ability to socially, emotionally, culturally, and academically achieve at the highest level possible.”

Should one of the DEI bills become law, Thompson wonders how alleged violations would be investigated and substantiated as well as how legal fees for the schools would be funded. He says state colleges and universities are more than willing to address issues that need to be fixed, but he fears these measures could slow the important gains higher education is making in Kentucky.

“The last thing we need to do is actually get to the point where anything goes to reverse the progress that we’re making academically,” says Thompson. “That’s not anything that I hope that our legislature or anybody else would bring to the table.”

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