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Medicaid Policy Changes in the Federal Budget Bill

Renee Shaw hosts a discussion about changes in Medicaid. Guests: State Senator Julie Raque Adams (R-Louisville); Mark Birdwhistell, senior vice president for health and public policy, University of Kentucky; Nancy Galvagni, president of the Kentucky Hospital Association; Dustin Pugel, policy director at the Kentucky Center for Economic Policy; and Anne-Tyler Morgan, healthcare law attorney.
Season 32 Episode 7 Length 56:33 Premiere: 07/07/25

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the Kentucky Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Panelists Discuss Work Requirements for Medicaid Enrollees, Less Funding for Hospitals, and More

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBA), President Trump’s 900-page budget reconciliation measure signed into law last week, will reduce federal Medicaid spending by an estimated $1 trillion over the next decade. It also implements a work requirement and new paperwork mandates for certain beneficiaries in the program.

The president, who has repeatedly pledged he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, says the changes will eliminate “waste, fraud, and abuse” in the system, strip benefits from illegal immigrants who shouldn’t be covered, and strengthen the program for those who most need its health coverage.

But the Congressional Budget Office estimates that up to 12 million Americans could end up losing coverage because of the changes. Others fear OBBA cuts will also imperil hundreds of hospitals dependent on Medicaid payments to survive.

Gov. Andy Beshear, a Democrat, says the impacts of OBBA will be devastating for Kentucky, where nearly of third of residents are on Medicaid. He contends 200,000 Kentuckians will lose coverage, up to 25 rural hospitals will close, and 20,000 health care workers will lose their jobs.

“It’s the single worst piece of legislation I’ve seen in my lifetime,” says Beshear. “It is a Congressional Republican and presidential attack on rural America.”

The cuts to Medicaid could have been much worse, according to Mark Birdwhistell, senior vice president for health and public policy at the University of Kentucky. He says Congress could have established lump-sum Medicaid payments to states or set a fixed amount of Medicaid funding per enrollee, both of which would’ve placed greater financial burdens on states. But those changes did not make it into the final legislation.

“What came out is a bill that gives a priority on what Medicaid was intended to do: Take care of women and young children, elderly folks, and those with disabilities,” says Birdwhistell.

OBBA changes impacting Medicaid beneficiaries don’t take effect until after the 2026 mid-term elections. Provisions on hospitals begin in 2028. State Sen. Julie Raque Adams (R-Louisville), who is co-chair of the legislature’s new Medicaid Oversight and Advisory Board (MOAB), says that delay will enable lawmakers and state officials to prepare for how to best implement the changes.

“Kentucky has time to come up with really thoughtful and creative solutions to make sure that we don’t lose that coverage that’s really vital… but it also has to have some component of sustainability for the program,” says Adams. “Republicans are trying to make sure that we run an efficient program that has better health outcomes than we have right now.”

Ahead of the 2026 General Assembly session, Adams says MOAB will work closely with the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services to learn how state Medicaid money is spent, where cost-savings could occur, and what areas need to be boosted or reduced.

Changes for Kentuckians

Under OBBA, able-bodied adults with no children who enrolled as part of Medicaid expansion will be required to work, go to school, or volunteer in their communities for 80 hours a month. People in that Medicaid group will also have to recertify their eligibility to be in the program every six months instead of annually.

Dustin Pugel, policy director at the Kentucky Center for Economic Policy, says Georgia and Arkansas have tried work requirements with mixed results. He says the challenge for people on Medicaid isn’t so much the work requirement since most people in the program already work. He says the issue is the additional paperwork that enrollees will have to complete.

“What we know about these requirements... is that they are really ineffective at increasing employment, they’re really ineffective at increasing wages, and they’re really ineffective at reducing poverty,” says Pugel. “But (what) they’re very effective at is tripping people up with red tape.”

The fear, he says, is that individuals who meet all the requirements could still lose coverage simply because they failed to correctly file their paperwork. Those individuals would then have to reapply for Medicaid coverage, which Pugel says is an onerous process, or go without any health coverage.

Adams says that shouldn’t be allowed to happen.

“Nobody should be cut off because of a paperwork error,” says the senator. “These are things that administratively we can take a hard look at and fix so that we don’t have those people that are falling through the cracks because that’s not fair.”

The extra documentation isn’t just a problem for enrollees. Anne-Tyler Morgan, health care law attorney with McBrayer PLLC in Lexington, says it’s also a challenge for the state Department for Medicaid Services, which will have to process all that new paperwork.

“I would argue that current Department for Medicaid Services staff is under-resourced in their ability to do that, and so there will need to be capacity added,” says Morgan.

She says that could include hiring more staff or upgrading technology to better handle the increased workload. Morgan says there will also be new opportunities for private companies that assist people with the process of enrolling in Medicaid and completing the routine eligibility paperwork.

As for people who are forced off of Medicaid, Morgan says the state should plan now for how to best help those individuals find coverage.

“Time is of the essence in insuring that proactive steps are taken to make sure that there’s actually somewhere for beneficiaries to go if they are indeed to lose coverage,” says Morgan. “It would be very pie in the sky to think that suddenly because people are disenrolled they are suddenly in a commercially insured environment, healthier than they are now.”

Challenges for Kentucky Hospitals

With about 1.4 million Kentuckians on Medicaid, many of the state’s hospitals and other health care providers depend on Medicaid payments to maintain staffing, facilities, and services. Even so, federal reimbursements only cover about 80 percent of what it actually costs to treat Medicaid patients, according to Kentucky Hospital Association President Nancy Galvagni.

KHA opposed the Senate version of OBBA because it made deeper cuts to Medicaid than the House version did. Galvagni says the association supported the House approach, which U.S. Rep. Brett Guthrie (KY-2) helped craft. She says the Bowling Green Republican understands the importance of Medicaid payments to the state’s hospitals.

“Congressman Guthrie was given a tall task to reach certain savings within Medicaid, but he did it with a scalpel, not sledgehammer because he protected our Kentucky hospitals,” says Galvagni. “We felt like he had a good balance and he understood the need to preserve health care in our state.”

In addition to tightening controls on who gets Medicaid, the Senate version of the bill also limits the use of state taxes on health care providers to increase the federal Medicaid matching money that states receive. Less Medicaid funding going to states will trickle down to less money for hospitals that rely on those revenues.

Galvagni says the Senate version of OBBA will end up cutting Medicaid payments to Kentucky hospitals by 90 percent. She says stabilization money plus some limited discretionary funding included in the bill won’t be enough to make up for the lost revenues.

“Through the program that we had in place, our rural hospitals were getting about $1 billion,” she says. “So $100 million is not going cut it.”

Faced with such a significant financial hit, Galvagni says hospital executives are already considering cuts to staffing and services like maternity care or emergency rooms. She says such reductions as well as outright hospital closures would hurt everyone in those communities, not just those on Medicaid.

If that occurs, Birdwhistell says UK HealthCare stands ready to help fill the gaps for rural communities.

“We can send physicians to remote locations so that people can get care close to home,” says Birdwhistell. “We’re looking at creative, outside-the-box solutions to bolster-up the community hospital system so that people can get the right care at the right time at the right place.”

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Season 32 Episodes

Discussing the State Budget

S32 E27 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/23/26

Medicaid Reform

S32 E26 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/16/26

Childcare Legislation in the 2026 General Assembly

S32 E25 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/02/26

Reviewing the 2026 Legislative Session at the Midpoint

S32 E24 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/23/26

K-12 Education Policy

S32 E23 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/16/26

Public Education Legislation

S32 E22 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/09/26

Housing Shortage in Kentucky

S32 E21 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/02/26

General Assembly Policy Priorities and the State Budget

S32 E20 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/12/26

2026 Legislative Session Preview

S32 E19 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/05/26

Eastern Kentucky Tourism

S32 E18 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/24/25

Food Insecurity in Kentucky

S32 E17 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/10/25

SNAP and Other Government Food Assistance Programs

S32 E16 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/03/25

The U.S. Economy, Tariffs and Federal Government Shutdown

S32 E15 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 10/13/25

Vaccines and Medications

S32 E14 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/06/25

K-12 Education in the Commonwealth

S32 E13 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/22/25

State & National Politics and Political Discourse

S32 E12 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/15/25

Housing in Kentucky

S32 E11 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/08/25

Spotlighting the South Central Kentucky Region

S32 E10 Length 56:58 Premiere Date 08/18/25

Agriculture in Kentucky

S32 E9 Length 56:43 Premiere Date 07/21/25

Spotlighting the Lake Cumberland Region

S32 E8 Length 56:53 Premiere Date 07/14/25

Medicaid Policy Changes in the Federal Budget Bill

S32 E7 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/07/25

Kentucky History

S32 E6 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 07/01/25

Current Issues in National Politics

S32 E5 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 05/12/25

Recap of the Rx and Illicit Drug Summit, Part 2

S32 E4 Length 57:08 Premiere Date 05/05/25

Recap of the Rx and Illicit Drug Summit, Part 1

S32 E3 Length 57:13 Premiere Date 04/28/25

Kentucky's Flood Response

S32 E1 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 04/14/25

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