Skip to Main Content

A Conversation with U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell

Renee Shaw talks with Sen. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky's Republican senior senator and minority leader in the U.S. Senate, about vaccine hesitancy, President Biden's proposed jobs and infrastructure plans, police reform, the teaching of systemic racism and more.
Season 16 Episode 28 Length 28:21 Premiere: 05/09/21

About

Connections

KET’s Connections features in-depth interviews with the influential, innovative and inspirational individuals who are shaping the path for Kentucky’s future.

From business leaders to entertainers to authors to celebrities, each week features an interesting and engaging guest covering a broad array of topics. Host Renee Shaw uses her extensive reporting experience to naturally blend casual conversation and hard-hitting questions to generate rich and full conversations about the issues impacting Kentucky and the world.


Tune-In

KET Sundays • 11:30 am/10:30 am
KET2 Sundays • 6/5 pm

Stream

Watch on KET’s website anytime or through the PBS Video App.

Podcast

The Connections podcast features each episode’s audio for listening.


Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

Kentucky's Senior Senator on the New President, the Pandemic, and His Political Future

Last November, U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell easily won a seventh term in office representing Kentucky.

But the then-Senate Majority Leader found a very different political landscape in the weeks that followed as Republicans lost not only the White House but control of the Senate. Along the way, the nation also watched an insurrection against the U.S. Capitol that was fueled by conspiracy theories President Donald Trump spread about the election results.

Even though McConnell said the president “provoked” and was “morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 attack, he voted against impeaching Trump.

Now as polling continues to show that a majority of Republicans believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen, McConnell wants to move on from the former president.

“I’m focusing now as the Republican leader of the Senate in unifying our conference against what I think has been demonstrated so far to be the most left-wing administration of my time in the Senate,” he says.

Concerns about Federal Spending

On the heels of passing his $1.9 trillion COVID relief package, President Joe Biden has outlined plans for a massive infrastructure bill and an expansion of the family safety net, which would total about $4 trillion combined.

After voting to spend trillions in COVID relief last year, McConnell now questions the need for additional stimulus packages with the pandemic on the wane.

“Based on the pandemic, we now have a national debt the size of our economy for the first time since World War II,” says the senator. “There’s a role for government but to me there’s a dramatic difference between a 100-year pandemic and how you should react to that, and business as usual.”

The senator says the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) that passed in March without a single Republican vote was “wildly expensive and unrelated to the needs of country.” He says only 10 percent of the $1.9 trillion package went to COVID-related vaccines and health care. McConnell contends such profligate federal spending is creating two problems: inflation and people staying out of the workforce so they can collect jobless benefits.

The Republican leader also criticizes the Biden Administration’s infrastructure plan for spending on items not generally considered infrastructure, including school buildings and home health care.

“What we’ve got here… is what could best be described as a bait and switch called infrastructure but much bigger with a whole laundry list of other things,” he says.

Then there’s Biden’s desire to raise the corporate tax rate to pay for the infrastructure bill. McConnell says the pre-pandemic economy was “rocking” thanks to the 2017 Republican tax cuts. He says any plan to now raise those taxes will guarantee GOP opposition.

Infrastructure, Policing, Voting, and Vaccinations

McConnell says he expects Democrats to try to pass the infrastructure bill through the 50-50- split Senate. While the Senate Democratic conference remained united in support of the ARPA, McConnell says that bond may not hold for the infrastructure package and other bills.

“I think they’ll find the sledding going forward more challenging,” he says. “I hope the result of that will be that they’ll decide to operate in the center where we’re prepared to do business.”

If the infrastructure plan fails, McConnell says Republicans are open to discussing a compromise. Republican Sen. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia has proposed a plan that focuses on traditional transportation infrastructure totaling $570 billion. McConnell says that would be funded through gas taxes and user fees such as tolls.

As for other issues, the Republican leader says he hopes lawmakers can reach an agreement on a police reform bill. He says Sen. Tim Scott, Republican of South Carolina, is working with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Cory Booker and Democratic California Congresswoman Karen Bass to find a compromise on qualified immunity for police officers. McConnell says that without that protection it will become increasingly difficult to attract new recruits to law enforcement.

“So that is the last really challenging issue,” he says. “How do you improve policing and still have police?”

While he’s optimistic on police reforms, McConnell says he opposes the voting and elections reform legislation proposed by Democrats. The Senator calls the For the People Act a “horrible bill” that he says he will do everything he can to block.

“It’s a vast federal takeover of all American elections,” says McConnell. “They want to take public money and spend it on political campaigns… for people you don’t support.”

There is one area where McConnell agrees with President Biden: The need for all Americans to get a COVID vaccination.

But 40 percent of Republicans say they don’t plan to get vaccinated, according to recent polling. And it’s not just men. McConnell some women are also hesitant to take the vaccine because of social media rumors that say it could interfere with fertility.

While people continue to debate the need to wear face masks at this stage of the pandemic, McConnell says there is no doubt that the COVID vaccines are safe, effective, and necessary.

“I think we’re in a really complicated phase on the mask part,” he says. “What is not complicated is we need to get shots in arms. Every American who’s eligible needs to do that.”

Slavery and American History

The Republican drew criticism for his recent comment that 1619, the year the first enslaved people arrived in America, is not an important date in the nation’s history. McConnell joined other Republican senators in signing a letter to U.S. Education Secretary Miguel Cardona protesting a proposed Biden Administration rule that public schools address systemic racism in their curricula. They contend such teaching would be “divisive.”

“I think we all have a pretty good agreement about the nature of our original sin and the steps we’ve taken to try to get past it,” he says, “all of which is an important part of any objective analysis of the history of the country.”

Instead of highlighting the year 1619, McConnell suggests history studies focus on 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was signed, 1787, when the U.S Constitution was signed, the Civil War years of 1861-1865, and 1964 and 1965, when Congress passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act respectively.

“I think a better job is to stick to the traditional view of the development of this country and how we’ve tried to improve and improve and improve our relationships with regard to race over the years,” he says.

Looking to 2022 and Beyond

Now 79 years old, the senator has faced questions about his future in Washington. Speculation increased after McConnell worked with state Senate President Robert Stivers (R-Manchester) on a bill to change how Kentucky governors fill a vacancy in a U.S. Senate seat.

Under the bill passed earlier this year by the Republican-dominated state legislature, governors can no longer select any person to fill a seat left open by the death or resignation of a senator. Now governors must select a temporary replacement from a list of three people provided by the executive committee of the political party of the departing senator.

McConnell acknowledges that Republicans took advantage of their supermajorities in the state House of Representatives and Senate to craft and pass the bill. Democrats decried the measure as another effort by state Republicans to strip power from Gov. Andy Beshear. The Democrat vetoed the bill, but lawmakers overrode his veto.

“This came about because I’d been watching over the years how vacancies were filled and thought this was a better way to do it,” McConnell says. “I understand why the governor didn’t like it. I wouldn’t either if I had been in his shoes.”

Even with the new legislation in place, McConnell says he has no plans to step down from Senate leadership or the seat he has held since 1985.

“I’m still in the height of my career,” he says. “I’m at the top of my game, I enjoy the confidence of my colleagues.”

Despite the debate roiling Republicans about former President Donald Trump and his role in the future of the GOP, McConnell says he is focused on the 2022 midterm contests and restoring GOP majorities in Congress.

“I think the ’22 election is not going to be about what Republicans may be saying about each other, but rather how the American people feel about the performance of the new administration,” says McConnell.

Sponsored by:

Season 16 Episodes

Filmmaker Elizabeth Helm-Frazier

S16 E37 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 08/01/21

Early Childhood Development Initiatives in Louisville

S16 E36 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 07/25/21

Kathy Werking and Jim Embry

S16 E35 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 07/17/21

Kentucky Public Health Commissioner Dr. Steven Stack

S16 E34 Length 27:41 Premiere Date 07/11/21

Boone Co. Judge Executive Gary Moore

S16 E33 Length 28:03 Premiere Date 06/26/21

The Demands and Rewards of Fatherhood

S16 E32 Length 26:31 Premiere Date 06/20/21

Psychologist Julie Cerel

S16 E31 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 06/13/21

Restaurateur and Chef Ouita Michel

S16 E30 Length 27:56 Premiere Date 06/06/21

Sarah Taylor Vanover - Early Childhood Education

S16 E29 Length 27:32 Premiere Date 05/16/21

A Conversation with U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell

S16 E28 Length 28:21 Premiere Date 05/09/21

Cynthia Knapek of Louisville Leadership Center

S16 E27 Length 27:35 Premiere Date 05/01/21

Vaccine Equity and Hesitancy

S16 E26 Length 28:22 Premiere Date 04/24/21

State Treasurer Allison Ball and Sharon Price

S16 E25 Length 28:31 Premiere Date 04/18/21

Chef and Activist Dan Wu

S16 E24 Length 27:52 Premiere Date 04/11/21

EKU Criminal Justice Professor Pete Kraska

S16 E23 Length 28:00 Premiere Date 04/03/21

The Rise of Anti-Asian Violence

S16 E22 Length 27:32 Premiere Date 03/28/21

Authors Prisha Hedau, Carly Muetterties and Maddie Shepard

S16 E21 Length 28:21 Premiere Date 03/21/21

Charles Booker

S16 E20 Length 28:27 Premiere Date 03/14/21

Mental Health and COVID-19

S16 E19 Length 28:39 Premiere Date 02/14/21

Community Activist Christopher 2X

S16 E18 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 02/07/21

Department of Veterans Affairs Commissioner Keith Jackson

S16 E17 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 01/31/21

A Mission to End Institutional Racism in Kentucky

S16 E16 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 01/24/21

Celebrating the Urban League of Lexington-Fayette County

S16 E15 Length 28:33 Premiere Date 01/17/21

Kentucky Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman

S16 E14 Length 27:06 Premiere Date 01/10/21

Caroline Randall Williams

S16 E13 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 12/20/20

Amy Luttrell and Adria Johnson

S16 E12 Length 28:12 Premiere Date 12/13/20

Kentucky Education Commissioner Jason Glass

S16 E11 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 11/22/20

Louisville Metro Police Interim Chief Yvette Gentry

S16 E10 Length 28:11 Premiere Date 11/15/20

Jecorey Arthur and Quintez Brown

S16 E9 Length 27:31 Premiere Date 11/08/20

Terrance Sullivan

S16 E8 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 11/01/20

2020 Election Preview with Colmon Elridge and Tres Watson

S16 E7 Length 28:02 Premiere Date 10/25/20

Beth Howard and Michael Harrington; Devine Carama

S16 E6 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 10/18/20

Nana Ama Aya Bullock and Muriel Harris

S16 E5 Length 28:26 Premiere Date 10/11/20

Betsy Johnson, Saundra Ardrey

S16 E4 Length 28:41 Premiere Date 10/04/20

Fabian Alvarez, Leyda Becker and Mercedes Harn

S16 E3 Length 28:06 Premiere Date 09/27/20

Devine Carama; Marjorie Guyon and Barry Darnell Burton

S16 E2 Length 28:46 Premiere Date 09/20/20

Marsha Weinstein

S16 E1 Length 28:01 Premiere Date 09/11/20

See All Episodes

caret down

TV Schedules

Upcoming

No upcoming airdates

Recent

No recent airdates

Explore KET