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State Budget and Tax Reform

Bill and his guests discuss the state budget and tax reform. Scheduled guests: State Rep. Rick Rand, D-Bedford, chair of the House Appropriations and Revenue Committee; State Sen. David Givens, R-Greensburg, vice chair of the Senate Appropriations and Revenue Committee; Jason Bailey, director of the Kentucky Center for Economic Policy; and Bryan Sunderland, senior vice president of public affairs
Season 21 Episode 30 Length 56:33 Premiere: 07/06/14

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

This weekly program features comprehensive discussions with lawmakers, stakeholders and policy leaders that are moderated by award-winning journalist Renee Shaw.

For nearly three decades, Kentucky Tonight has been a source for complete and balanced coverage of the most urgent and important public affairs developments in the state of Kentucky.

Often aired live, viewers are encouraged to participate by submitting questions in real-time via email, Twitter or KET’s online form. Viewers with questions and comments may send an email to kytonight@ket.org or use the contact form. All messages should include first and last name and town or county. The phone number for viewer calls during the program is 800-494-7605.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

State Budget Shortfall: Likely Causes and Possible Cures

As lawmakers await the final tally on the state budget shortfall for fiscal year 2014, some in Frankfort are already blaming anemic state revenues on several familiar issues.

Appearing on Monday’s edition of Kentucky Tonight, House Appropriations and Revenue Committee Chairman Rick Rand (D-Bedford) and Senate Appropriations and Revenue Committee Vice-Chairman David Givens (R-Greensburg) point to lower than expected personal income taxes receipts. Givens says state economists projected those revenues to grow by about 2 percent this year. Instead, they only grew about half a percent.

The panel on yesterday’s program attributes that sluggishness to lingering effects of the recession. Bryan Sunderland of the Kentucky Chamber of Commerce says the state lost about 104,000 jobs during the downturn, and has only recovered around 65,000 jobs. About half of those are low-wage, part-time, temporary or contract positions. He contends companies aren’t confident enough in the recovery to invest in hiring full-time workers and paying their benefits.

With about 40 percent of state revenues coming from individual income taxes, any change in those receipts can have a substantial impact on the state budget. Jason Bailey, director of the Kentucky Center for Economic Policy, says personal tax revenues grew 6 percent last year, so he hopes this year’s dip is a temporary aberration. Bailey argues the commonwealth is also hurt by having relatively few higher paying jobs.

“We’ve seen a recovery where incomes have grown very rapidly at the top, but the average working person, their wages and income are not growing,” Bailey explains. “So Kentucky is disproportionately harmed by that.”

Factors Contributing to Slow Job Growth
Sen. Givens contends that businesses face a number of challenges to creating more and better-paying jobs. One factor, he says, is that the state doesn’t foster entrepreneurism.

“We don’t cultivate a great, vast number of folks who want to start businesses over and over and take risks,” says Givens. “It’s not part of the culture, especially in our rural part of the state.”

Givens and Sunderland also argue that not being a right-to-work state restricts business development in Kentucky. More than 20 states, including neighboring Indiana, Tennessee, and Virginia, have right-to-work rules, which allow an employee to decide whether they want to join or financially support a union in their workplace.

“It is a huge factor when relocating or locating a business to a state,” Sunderland says. “We are marked off of numerous lists because of it.”

While Sunderland claims wages are higher in right-to-work states, Rep. Rand says he opposes the law because it ultimately hurts those in blue-collar jobs.

“I’m not for lowering the standard for working people, and that’s what we’re talking about,” Rand responds. “We’re talking about people working by the sweat of their brow, and saying we’re going to pay you less. That is going in the wrong direction.”

Another area of concern is the Affordable Care Act and the expansion of Medicaid. Sunderland and Givens contend as more people enroll in those programs, the costs of those benefits will far exceed projections. That will absorb government dollars that could have gone to job creation, education, and infrastructure projects.

Givens says business owners also feel uncertain about the future of the state health insurance exchange, Kynect. He says since Gov. Beshear unilaterally created the program, a future governor could unilaterally decide to end it.

Health Care Jobs and Certificate of Need
Rand says it wouldn’t make sense for another governor to repeal Kynect because that would leave thousands of Kentuckians without health insurance. Plus, he argues the 2014-2016 state budget was predicated on nearly $200 million in savings the program is expected to generate from lower medical costs.

Jason Bailey goes a step further to say that the Affordable Care Act will create jobs because more people with insurance will need more health care services.

Givens asserts that increased demand may force the state to revisit its existing “certificate of need” rules to grant additional permits for new medical facilities. Sen. Rand responds that the state already has enough hospitals and health services in urban communities. The greater need is for doctors, nurse practitioners, and primary care providers in rural areas.

Tax Reform Still an Option
The Kentucky Tonight panel agreed that another crucial way to stabilize state revenues is to overhaul and update the tax system. Bailey says Kentucky can’t simply cut taxes to attract business. He calls for reform that’s fair to all taxpayers — not just corporations and the wealthy — and that creates sufficient revenue to fund education, social services, and infrastructure needs.

Sunderland counters by saying a new tax system must not harm the state’s competitiveness. He sees bipartisan support for reform that focuses on fostering economic growth, reducing the cost of capital for businesses, and simplifying the tax codes. Given the relative strength of recent sales tax receipts, Sunderland also suggests scaling back on income taxes in favor of a consumption tax.

Earlier this year the governor’s blue ribbon tax commission issued a series of recommendations for updating the tax system, but the General Assembly took no action on the proposal. Sen. Givens says he’s hopeful reform will be debated in next year’s session and as part of the 2015 governor’s race.

Short-term Shortfall Solutions
Despite a wealth of ideas for generating more revenue in the future, the issue of the current shortfall still remains. House Budget Chairman Rand says legislators will help the governor as best they can to bring the budget back in balance. Senate Vice-Chair Givens says the state will know the actual amount of the shortfall in a few days, which he expects to be between $50 and $90 million.

Rand and Givens say the governor may tap part of the state’s $90 million Rainy Day Fund, cut into the $80 million starting balance legislators wrote into the 2015 budget, and ask state agencies to further limit spending. They say the trick will be to address the 2014 shortfall without simply pushing the deficit down the road and compounding the problem for subsequent budget years.

State officials have until the end of July to close the 2014 books.

The opinions expressed on Kentucky Tonight and in this program synopsis are the responsibility of the participants and do not necessarily reflect those of KET.

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