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Contraception and the Affordable Care Act

Bill and his guests discuss contraception and the Affordable Care Act. Scheduled guests: Amy Cubbage, a Louisville lawyer and member of the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky; Richard Nelson, executive director of the Commonwealth Policy Center; Samuel Marcosson, a University of Louisville law professor; and Paul Salamanca, a University of Kentucky law professor.
Season 21 Episode 33 Length 56:33 Premiere: 07/27/14

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Contraception and Religion: Hobby Lobby Ruling Raises Questions

The Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case not only struck a blow to part of the Affordable Care Act, but it also raised substantial questions about how corporate personhood could encompass religious beliefs. The panelists on Mondayโ€™s Kentucky Tonight program tried to untangle these thorny issues as they discussed the Hobby Lobby decision.

The Supreme Court ruled in June that closely held for-profit companies could be exempted for religious reasons from the ACAโ€™s mandate to include contraceptive drugs in an employeeโ€™s health insurance coverage. Of the 20 contraceptives included under Obamacare, the families who own the companies that brought the lawsuit believe four of those drugs abort a fertilized egg.

The court held that the owners could not be forced to pay for a drug that violates their religious convictions if there was a less restrictive way of providing that medication to their employees.

Interpreting the Supreme Court Ruling
Richard Nelson, executive director of the Commonwealth Policy Center, says the Hobby Lobby case is more about religious freedom than contraception. He believes private business owners should be allowed to operate their companies according to their spiritual convictions. He says Hobby Lobby does still provide for 16 other forms of birth control under its health plan. But the company would have faced nearly $475 million in annual fines for not offering the four so-called abortifacient drugs.

While that financial burden wouldโ€™ve been substantial for Hobby Lobby, University of Louisville law professor Samuel Marcosson contends the Supreme Court didnโ€™t give proper consideration to the third parties in the case: the companyโ€™s female employees. He says thatโ€™s a flaw in the majorityโ€™s decision.

โ€œThe court has had a long tradition of limiting the ability of government to accommodate religious beliefs when it would impose substantial burdens on third parties who would be affected by those accommodations,โ€ Marcosson explains. โ€œI think thatโ€™s where the court really failed to engage fully the issues in this case.โ€

Marcosson and Nelson disagree on the scope of the courtโ€™s decision. Nelson sees the ruling as very specific to closely held, family-based companies and life-ending contraceptive drugs. But Marcosson says he can envision circumstances where any company, arguing religious convictions, could seek to deny all contraceptives covered under the ACA.

Louisville attorney Amy Cubbage says she fears the broader implications of the ruling. She argues the Hobby Lobby case was very much about contraception and abortion. She says the five men in the courtโ€™s majority didnโ€™t care that the case involved the reproductive rights of women.

โ€œIf Hobby Lobby had been saying, we donโ€™t want to cover vasectomies because they affect men, I donโ€™t think youโ€™d have five men on the Supreme Court saying that would be OK,โ€ Cubbage says.

Corporations and Religion
Another significant element of the Hobby Lobby decision was how the Supreme Court acknowledged that the company could hold religious beliefs the way an individual can. Marcosson says that follows the logic of the 2010 Citizens United ruling that gave corporations the rights of citizens to make campaign contributions.

He argues that itโ€™s unfair to give companies the legal protections afforded corporate entities and religious freedoms granted to individuals. Marcosson contends that while businesses whose owners profess specific religious beliefs should get equal treatment in the marketplace, they shouldnโ€™t receive special treatment.

Richard Nelson challenges that notion, saying itโ€™s unfair to expect individuals of faith not to carry their religious principles into their work. He says the founders of Hobby Lobby have conducted their operations according to biblical principles since the 1970s. Without the religious accommodation granted by the Supreme Court, Nelson says Hobby Lobby wouldโ€™ve gone out of business and put thousands of employees out of work.

โ€œWhat Iโ€™m hearing is…that thereโ€™s no place for religious values or beliefs in your own business,โ€ Nelson says. โ€œThatโ€™s not what this country is about.โ€

Principles of Religious Freedom
The courtโ€™s decision was based in part on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), which prevents laws that restrict or burden a personโ€™s right to freely exercise their religious beliefs.

University of Kentucky law professor Paul Salamanca says the bill was popular when it was introduced in 1993: It passed both houses of Congress with overwhelming majorities and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. But since then, RFRA has come up against what Salamanca calls โ€œfissure pointsโ€ in American culture, specifically over issues involving abortion as well as LGBT rights.

The plaintiffs in the Hobby Lobby case argued that the governmentโ€™s compelling interest to provide cost-free contraceptives unduly burdened their religious convictions. They opposed paying for the four drugs specifically designed to terminate what they deem a human life. The court upheld that argument, saying the government had other less restrictive means of achieving its interest: The government itself could pay for the contraceptive drugs, or the insurance company could be required to bear the cost of the drug without passing the expense back to the employer or the employee.

Religion and the Supreme Court
Salamanca sees a larger trend on the part of this court to be more receptive to hearing religious freedom claims. He points to the Hobby Lobby ruling and a decision earlier this session where the Supreme Court upheld the rights of legislative bodies to pray at the start of official meetings.

But not everyone who argues for religious exemptions is successful. Salamanca cites a 1983 ruling in Bob Jones University v. United States. Based on its founderโ€™s religious convictions, the South Carolina school had denied admission to African-American students or to those who were in interracial marriages. The Internal Revenue Service revoked the universityโ€™s non-profit status because of its discriminatory practices. The school sued and the case wound up in the Supreme Court, where justices ruled in an 8-1 decision that the rights of religious schools did not trump efforts to eradicate racial discrimination in education.

โ€œSo just because the test is strict, doesnโ€™t mean that religiously scrupulous employers would win every case,โ€ Salamanca says.

On the other hand, Samuel Marcosson says the courts have been reluctant to question the sincerity, nature, and scope of claimed religious beliefs. He says the Supreme Court didnโ€™t question the religious convictions of the owners in the Hobby Lobby case even though the company has retirement funds invested with manufacturers of abortifacient drugs.

The opinions expressed on Kentucky Tonight and in this program synopsis are the responsibility of the participants and do not necessarily reflect those of KET.

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