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Exploring Local Government Issues

Renee Shaw and guests discuss local government issues including elections and revenue policies. Guests include: State Sen. Damon Thayer (R-Georgetown); State Sen. Reggie Thomas (D-Lexington); State Rep. Michael Meredith (R-Oakland); J.D. Chaney, CEO of Kentucky League of Cities; and Shannon Stiglitz, senior vice president of government affairs at Kentucky Retail Federation.
Season 30 Episode 2 Length 56:35 Premiere: 02/13/23

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

This weekly program features comprehensive discussions with lawmakers, stakeholders and policy leaders that are moderated by award-winning journalist Renee Shaw.

For nearly three decades, Kentucky Tonight has been a source for complete and balanced coverage of the most urgent and important public affairs developments in the state of Kentucky.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Panelists Debate Legislation to Make Local Elections Partisan and to Expand Local Government Taxation

Of the range of issues facing Kentucky’s city and county governments, two have taken center stage among lawmakers in Frankfort: Whether candidates in local races that traditionally have been nonpartisan should now have to disclose their party affiliations, and how to give municipalities more options for generating local revenues.

The taxation issue has percolated around the capitol for years, and will likely be delayed until the 2024 General Assembly session. But the local election issue is poised to move this year.

Companion House and Senate bills would change all of Kentucky’s county commissioner, mayor, city council, school board, and soil and water conservation officer races into partisan contests. Senate Bill 50 sponsor Sen. Damon Thayer (R-Georgetown) says the legislation is designed to make all elections across the commonwealth consistent and to promote accountability.

“I believe voters should have the most amount of information possible when they go in to the polls to cast their vote,” says Thayer. “The number one step we could take to tell people about who they’re voting for is for people to declare their political party when they’re running for a current nonpartisan office.”

Thayer contends voters tend to know little about the candidates for local offices, so they end up voting for a friend or a familiar name, not the best candidate.

Rep. Matt Lockett (R-Nicholasville), the sponsor of House Bill 50, says he’s amazed that anyone would oppose making elections more transparent.

“I believe, and I think most people believe as well, how you identify with your party tells a lot about how you’re going to govern,” says Lockett. “I think the voters should know that.”

Candidates would not be limited to Democratic or Republican affiliations, according to Thayer, but could be listed as Libertarian, Green Party, independents or any other registration.

Critics say affiliations are of limited value in communicating how a candidate would govern on important issues.

“I think it’s flawed when you say that a party initial tells someone what you stand for,” says Sen. Reggie Thomas (D-Lexington). “You can’t pigeonhole all Democrats, all Republicans in one category. It just doesn’t work.”

Only a handful of Kentucky’s 415 city and county governments have partisan races. When Lexington and Fayette County merged in 1974, officials there made the races for mayor and urban-county council nonpartisan. Rep. George Brown, a Democrat, who served on Lexington’s council for 13 years, says he never heard voters question his party affiliation.

“If you can provide or help provide basic services for the citizens, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a D or a R,” says Brown. “My thing is that if it’s not broke, why do we need to fix it?”

The proposal has drawn opposition from the Kentucky League of Cities and variety of elected officials across the commonwealth. Fort Wright Mayor Dave Hatter, a Republican, wrote in a recent editorial that the legislation would result in more political discord as well as limit the pool of candidates and diversity of ideas in local races. He said state statute already allows cities and counties to choose whether to have partisan elections.

Polling indicates that 65 percent of Kentuckians support the idea, according to Thayer. He says most of the opposition he and Lockett have heard on the proposal is from currently serving elected officials. They say candidates shouldn’t be afraid to tell voters what their affiliation is, especially when it comes to city council and school board members who would spend taxpayer dollars.

“If you have authority to raise taxes on voters, then those voters deserve to know everything about you, as an official that will govern, how you might make decisions,” says Lockett.

Another concern with the proposed legislation is that federal government employees would be precluded from running in local elections because the Hatch Act prevents them for participating in partisan political activities. Thomas says that would further limit the pool of available candidates in these races. He also fears the impacts of turning school board races into partisan contests.

“Do we really want to politicize our education? That’s the real danger here,” says Thomas. “I would hate to see our country go in that direction.”

Thayer contends that school boards are already partisan. He also says if potential candidates are concerned about Hatch Act restrictions, then they should reach out to him or Lockett so they can address that issue in their legislation.

The current proposals do not include judicial races. Thayer says he thinks those contests should be partisan as well, but he says that would require an amendment to the state constitution.

Depending on the reception that House and Senate Bills 50 receive in the legislature, Thayer says they could be updated to focus on making only certain races partisan during this General Assembly session. He says lawmakers could revisit the issue in future sessions to include other races.

“We might pass it this session, we might pass part of it this session, we might pass none of it this session,” says Thayer. “But it’s not going away.”

Expanding Revenue Options for Cities and Counties

For some two decades, city and county officials have lobbied state lawmakers for more revenue options to fund infrastructure projects, payroll, and municipal services. That’s because local governments are currently limited by the Kentucky Constitution in what they can tax. They can levy property taxes, which generally go to supporting local public schools and special government entities. They can also collect franchise taxes as well as occupational taxes on businesses and individuals. Some Kentucky cities also have the ability to levy restaurant taxes.

Kentucky League of Cities Executive Director and CEO J.D. Chaney says city governments have “practically capped out” those revenue-generating options.

“The insurance premium tax is just at the point where if you raise it more, it makes it too expensive to buy insurance,” says Chaney. “From an occupational tax standpoint, if you raise that any, then you become less competitive with our neighboring states or your neighboring communities in Kentucky. And from a property tax standpoint, we’re statutorily limited.”

As Frankfort lawmakers have moved to make the state’s tax system more competitive, Rep. Michael Meredith (R-Oakland) says it’s time to do the same for city and county taxes. He says Kentucky is one of only 15 states that limit municipalities to Income-based taxes for generating revenues.

“We are one of the top five or six most-reliant states in the nation on local occupational taxes for the revenue that provide the basic services to cities and counties,” says Meredith. “If we ever want to reduce that, we have to give them another option to replace that revenue.”

In the 2022 General Assembly session, Meredith sponsored House Bill 475, a bipartisan bill that proposed a constitutional amendment to give Kentucky’s cities and counties new taxation options. That measure passed the House 80-17 but then stalled in the Senate.

Instead of reviving that proposal this year, Meredith says they are tweaking the legislation for 2024, when a proposed amendment could go on the ballot. Chaney says the amendment itself will not include any tax policy changes.

“The constitutional provision would not allow cities to do anything, would not allow counties to do anything,” says Chaney. “It would allow General Assembly to decide what we could do.”

Meredith says the idea is to create an environment where cities and counties can transition away from occupational taxes and replace that revenue with new local sales taxes of probably 1 or 1.5 percent. Like the current effort to move state tax policy from income to consumption taxes, Meredith says the local government plan would include a transition period with budget triggers to protect a municipality’s overall revenues without burdening residents with more taxes.

“Our key is this: Protect the baseline revenues that counties and cities have today,” says Meredith, “and then grow the pie so that we, overall, lower the tax burden but allow the city and county revenues to grow.”

The Kentucky Retail Federation is opposed to Meredith’s plan. Shannon Stiglitz, senior vice president of government affairs for the federation, says it could pit neighboring communities against one another. A city or county that opts to not levy local sales taxes would have an economic advantage over those that do implement them.

“Consumer spending is impacted anytime the price of a good increases,” says Stiglitz. “We know consumers shop with their feet. They will go to get a bargain and they will go to pay less.”

Levying new local taxes would create an additional administrative burden on businesses that would have to collect them, according to Stiglitz, and would force business owners to spend more money on the goods and services that they purchase. She also fears that without legislative intervention, businesses would end up being taxed twice at the state and local levels for things like utilities.

"Currently Kentuckians have a constitutional protection to know that the General Assembly cannot overly expand and give local governments the ability to tax lots of different things,” says Stiglitz.

Overtaxing Kentuckians also worries Sen. Thayer. He contends any increase in sales taxes must be offset by a decrease in occupational taxes.

“My main concern are the taxpayers,” says Thayer. “I want to make sure that if a local sales tax is levied that it doesn’t become a burden on the taxpayers in that locality.”

Thayer says Meredith’s proposal has the backing of powerful business groups including the Northern Kentucky Chamber of Commerce, Greater Louisville, Inc., Commerce Lexington, and the state chamber. But he says proponents will have to do a significant marketing campaign to convince reluctant lawmakers to approve the ballot measure, and to convince voters wary of a new tax system to approve the constitutional amendment.

“I don’t think if we put it on the ballot today, it would pass,” says Thayer. “I don’t think there’s enough of an understanding out there in the public about how it would work.”

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Final Negotiations on the State Budget

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School Safety

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Early Childhood Education

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State Budget Discussion

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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) in Higher Education

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Safer Kentucky Act

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Legislative Priorities in the 2024 General Assembly

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Governor Andy Beshear's Budget Address

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2024 Legislative Preview: Part Two

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2024 Legislative Preview

S30 E32 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 11/20/23

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Candidate Conversations: Lieutenant Governor

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Candidate Conversations: Governor

S30 E29 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/23/23

Political Analysts Forecast the 2023 General Election

S30 E28 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/17/23

Secretary of State; Commissioner of Agriculture

S30 E27 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/09/23

Auditor of Public Accounts; State Treasurer

S30 E26 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/02/23

Kentucky's Economy, Jobs and Taxes

S30 E25 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/25/23

Higher Education in Kentucky

S30 E24 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/18/23

Kentucky's Health Care Challenges

S30 E23 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/11/23

Education Issues in Kentucky

S30 E22 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 08/21/23

Fancy Farm Preview and Kentucky Politics

S30 E21 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/31/23

Kentucky's Energy Needs

S30 E20 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 07/17/23

Artificial Intelligence

S30 E19 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 07/10/23

Jobs, Inflation and the Economy

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SB 150 and LGBTQ Issues

S30 E17 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/19/23

Horse Racing Safety

S30 E16 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 06/12/23

A Discussion of Gun Laws

S30 E15 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 06/05/23

Recapping The 2023 Kentucky Primary

S30 E14 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 05/22/23

2023 Primary Election Preview

S30 E13 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 05/15/23

Republican Candidate for Secretary of State

S30 E12 Length 15:00 Premiere Date 05/08/23

Republican Candidates for Governor

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Candidates for Treasurer and Commissioner of Agriculture

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Challenges Facing Kentucky Schools

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Policy Analysts Recap the 2023 General Assembly

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Recap of the 2023 Kentucky General Assembly

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Kentucky Legislation on LGBTQ+ Youth

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Student Discipline Legislation

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Gambling Proposals in the Kentucky General Assembly

S30 E4 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 02/27/23

Kentucky's Teacher Shortage

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Exploring Local Government Issues

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Child Abuse and Neglect in Kentucky

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