Skip to Main Content

Public Education Issues for the 2020 General Assembly

Renee Shaw and guests discuss public education. Guests: Allison Slone, a special education teacher in Rowan Co. and founder of KYREADS; Eric Kennedy, director of advocacy for the Kentucky School Boards Association; Brigitte Blom Ramsey, president and CEO of the Prichard Committee for Academic Excellence; and Richard Innes, education analyst for the Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions.
Season 26 Episode 43 Length 56:33 Premiere: 12/16/19


Kentucky Tonight

KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis on major issues facing the Commonwealth.

This weekly program features comprehensive discussions with lawmakers, stakeholders and policy leaders that are moderated by award-winning journalist Renee Shaw. Often aired live, viewers are encouraged to participate by submitting questions real-time via email, Twitter or KET’s online form.
For nearly three decades, Kentucky Tonight has been a source for complete and balanced coverage of the most urgent and important public affairs developments in the state of Kentucky.

Viewers with questions and comments may send e-mail to or use the contact form. All messages should include first and last name and town or county. The phone number for viewer calls during the program is 1-800-494-7605.

After broadcast, Kentucky Tonight programs are available on and via podcast (iTunes or Android). Files are normally accessible within 24 hours after the television broadcast.

Kentucky Tonight was awarded a 1997 regional Emmy by the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. The series was also honored with a 1995 regional Emmy nomination.

To purchase a DVD:
Call 1-800-945-9167 or e-mail


KET Mondays • 8/7 pm


Watch on KET’s website anytime or through the PBS Video App.


The Kentucky Tonight podcast features each episode’s audio for listening.

Renee Shaw is Moderator and Director of Public Affairs for Kentucky Educational Television, currently serving as host of KET’s Kentucky Tonight, Connections, election coverage, Legislative Update and KET Forums.

Since joining KET in 1997, Shaw has produced numerous KET public affairs series and specials, including KET’s nationally recognized legislative coverage. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, town hall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

As an award-winning journalist, Shaw has earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, earning two regional Emmy awards, and an award from the Kentucky Associated Press for political coverage of the state legislature. She was inducted into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame in 2017. She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; earned the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the Kentucky Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform in 2014; and, in 2015, received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault and human trafficking.  

In 2018, KET earned a national media award from Mental Health America for its multi-dimensional content on the opioid epidemic shepherded by Shaw. That same year, she co-produced and moderated a six-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. In 2019, Shaw was recognized by The Kentucky Gazette as one of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government. In addition, Renee was awarded the Charles W. Anderson Laureate Award by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet which recognizes individuals who have made significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues.

Host Renee Shaw smiling in a green dress with a KET set behind her.

Next year marks the 30th anniversary of passage of the landmark Kentucky Education Reform Act (KERA) that made sweeping changes to how public schools in the commonwealth operate and are funded.

The legislation garnered national acclaim for the state and generated dramatic improvements in primary and secondary education. But in the last decade, that progress has faced a series of daunting challenges, including funding cutbacks brought on by the 2008 financial crisis, achievement gaps among certain student groups, declining academic outcomes in reading and math, and school safety issues.

With a new gubernatorial administration taking over in Frankfort, concerned teachers, parents, and students are hoping for a revival of K-12 education. In their inaugural remarks last week, incoming Gov. Andy Beshear and Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman, herself an educator, echoed that sentiment.

"Starting today, public education is a top priority in Kentucky," said Coleman, who is also the new secretary of the Education and Workforce Development Cabinet.

"If our public schools, especially those in struggling areas, are going to survive and thrive, we need to make sure that they are adequately funded," said Beshear. "This is not a partisan issue, this is a Kentucky issue."

New School Board Installed

On his first day in office, Beshear issued an executive order to replace the existing Kentucky Board of Education with all new members. The Democrat said the new board was selected based on their education experience and commitment to improving public schools, not on their partisan affiliation.

But the action drew criticism from several of the ousted board members, who argue their jobs are protected by Kentucky law, and from GOP leaders in the legislature who say Beshear did not consult with them on the action and failed to appoint any Republicans to the new board.

Brigitte Blom Ramsey, president and CEO of the Prichard Committee for Academic Excellence, served on the state board from 2008 to 2014. She says members usually are appointed on a staggered basis so no single governor can select an entire board. Ramsey says KERA created a new governance model for schools designed to protect public education from partisan politics.

"We hope that as we move into the [2020] legislative session, the governor and the General Assembly will work together... to clarify the intent of the law and get us back to a place where education is a protected, professional space," says Ramsey.

Beshear's overhaul could still be challenged in court. Under state law, board members cannot be removed from office prior to the end of their term without due cause.

"The true cause at the end of the day is that we need to do what's best for our children," says Allison Slone, a special education teacher in Rowan County and an ex-officio, non-voting member of the new board. "We want to look at this as a restart... and get people in place to help figure out what we need to do... and put our state back on the track to improving education."

Among the community leaders who comprise local school boards, there is a sense of relief about the new state board, according to Eric Kennedy, director of advocacy for the Kentucky School Boards Association. He says board members should be as experienced as possible and represent all Kentuckians.

"We hope the state board of [education] will and continue to be apolitical," says Kennedy, "not necessarily bipartisan or even nonpartisan."

Whether Beshear's board is allowed to stand, Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions Education Analyst Richard Inness says the members must focus on making much-needed improvements to education in the commonwealth.

"For me, meaningful progress involves making some very, very strong changes in the status quo," says Innes, "from the way we’re doing governance in our schools right now to helping our teachers with professional development that really works."

Mississippi Makes Dramatic Gains

Innes is particularly rankled by the fact that Mississippi, which traditionally lags behind Kentucky in education outcomes, recently surged ahead of the commonwealth in reading and math scores among fourth graders.

"This is a stunning development, a shocking development," he says.

Innes attributes the academic improvements in Mississippi to that state adopting a more scientific, structured approach to reading instruction, and tightly controlling how teachers are trained to use that approach.

Kentucky teachers aren't yet trained in that approach, according to Slone. She says improving reading skills among Kentucky children is critical.

"It's really hard to ask students to do better, reach proficiency, to get great social studies scores, science scores, and all those other things if they’ve gotten through third grade without being able to read," says Slone.

Ramsey says Mississippi found success by emulating what Kentucky did 30 years ago with KERA: instituting strong accountability, high quality standards, and aligned student assessments.

"So what we're seeing in Mississippi is a commitment to three things that we know work," says Ramsey. "We need to get back to providing the professional development, the thought-leadership to double down in that space that worked for us in the 1990s and will work for us again."

Comparing the scores of students in Mississippi to those in Kentucky may not be fair, though. Kennedy says one major difference is that the opioid crisis has hit the commonwealth far harder than any other state. He says that's impacted families and students in ways that educators are struggling to address.

Finding More Money for Education

Funding is also an issue: Even while lawmakers approved record high per-pupil spending in the last state budget, Kennedy says overall spending on public education is down thanks to cuts to things like student transportation, textbooks and professional development for teachers.

In 1997, 52 percent of the state's General Fund went to K-12 education, according to Kennedy. (That figure includes payments to teacher pensions.) Now he says public education consumes 43 percent of the General Fund budget.

Kennedy says it's not just a matter of more money for schools, it's how that money gets allocated.

"It really needs to be more about improving each and every school in every community, no matter what its demographics are, no matter where it is, with the best that we can all provide together," says Kennedy.

Slone says teachers and school administrators also feel burdened by unfunded mandates. One example is the school safety measure approved by lawmakers earlier this year. Senate Bill 1 requires school districts to tighten security on school campuses and hire more counselors and school resource officers. But that bill included no funding mechanism to pay for those changes. (Lawmakers have pledged to try to find the money when they craft a new state budget during the 2020 General Assembly session.)

"You have this legislation and it’s great and it’s been mandated, but there’s no funding behind it," says Slone. "How are we supposed to do that and do everything else we’re supposed to do?"

Seeing the decline in math and reading scores, and persistent achievement gaps, especially between white and black students, the Prichard Committee is urging lawmakers to invest $1 billion new dollars over five years in all education in Kentucky, from early childhood to college.

"We've been at education reform nationally and in the state of Kentucky for almost four decades. We know things about what works," says Ramsey. "Investing in our teachers, investing in professional learning and preparation of our teachers, ensuring diversity of our teachers... high expectations for all students, and support for all students is the way we’re going continue to make progress."

But Innes isn't convinced that more money is the answer. He says Mississippi made their math and reading gains even while paying teachers an average of $8,000 less per year than Kentucky educators, and by allocating about $1,900 less in per-pupil spending.

"They are getting phenomenal bang for the buck," says Innes. "I don’t think that we are… We need to do some very careful looking at what are we spending the money on, and maybe we have enough money but we're not spending it wisely."

For example, Innes says the state could save money by updating existing school facilities rather than constructing new buildings. He says that savings could be put towards teacher salaries.

School Choice

Another education item that has yet to be funded is charter schools. Lawmakers passed enabling legislation in 2017 that allows school districts to create charters, but they failed to allocate money for such schools in the 2018 budget session.

Charter advocates hope to revisit the funding issue during the 2020 session. Innes says a group in northern Kentucky hopes to win approval soon for the state's first charter school. He says the River Cities Academy planned for Newport could secure necessary funding from out-of-state interests.

The charter school issue has sparked intense debate among education advocates in the commonwealth. Some fear charters will drain money away from traditional public schools. Others contend that parents in districts with failing schools need more education options for their children.

"Whether you like it or not, and think the state should go in that direction or not, there is research to suggest that charters can be effective for specific populations of students that we’re not serving well," says Ramsey. "African-American students [and] students living in deep poverty in urban areas."

Another hotly debated school-choice option is a proposed tax credit for individuals who contribute to nonprofit organizations that provide scholarships for K-12 students to attend private schools. Proponents say the measure would benefit poor families who couldn't otherwise afford educational alternatives for their children.

Both the Prichard Committee and the School Boards Association oppose the scholarship tax credit. Kennedy estimates such a tax credit could reduce state revenues by $25 million in the first year and by as much as $100 million in subsequent years. He contends Kentucky can't afford that kind of revenue loss when facing massive obligations for education, public pensions, and Medicaid.

"We can't forgo a single penny when we have needs like this," says Kennedy.

Sponsored by:

Season 26 Episodes

Public Education Issues for the 2020 General Assembly

S26 E43 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 12/16/19

Gubernatorial Transition

S26 E42 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 12/09/19

City and County Issues

S26 E41 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 11/25/19

Hemp's Impact

S26 E40 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/18/19

Election 2019 Recap

S26 E39 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 11/11/19

Election 2019 Preview

S26 E38 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/04/19

Candidates for Governor

S26 E37 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/28/19

Lieutenant Governor Candidates

S26 E36 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/21/19

Attorney General Candidates

S26 E35 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/14/19

Secretary of State

S26 E34 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 10/07/19

Commissioner of Ag; Auditor of Public Accounts; State Treas

S26 E33 Length 1:26:40 Premiere Date 09/30/19

K-12 Public Education

S26 E32 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/09/19

Public Assistance and Government Welfare Programs

S26 E31 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 08/26/19

Energy in Kentucky

S26 E30 Length 56:40 Premiere Date 08/12/19

Public Pension Reform

S26 E29 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/29/19

Quasi-Governmental Pensions

S26 E28 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 07/22/19


S26 E27 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 07/15/19

Public Education

S26 E24 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/16/19

Immigration and Border Security

S26 E23 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 07/08/19

Prospects for Criminal Justice Reform

S26 E22 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 07/01/19

Issues in the 116th Congress

S26 E21 Length 56:37 Premiere Date 06/24/19

Trends Influencing the 2019 General Election

S26 E20 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/10/19

Previewing the 2019 Primary Election

S26 E19 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 05/20/19

Democratic Primary Candidates for Governor and Lt. Governor

S26 E18 Length 1:56:41 Premiere Date 05/13/19

Republican Attorney General Candidates, Primary Race 2019

S26 E17 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 04/15/19

Candidates for Secretary of State 2019 Primary

S26 E16 Length 1:26:35 Premiere Date 04/08/19

State Auditor; State Treasurer, Primary Election 2019

S26 E15 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 04/01/19

Commissioner of Agriculture, Primary Election

S26 E14 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 03/25/19

2019 General Assembly

S26 E13 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/18/19

Legislation in the 2019 General Assembly

S26 E12 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/18/19

Ongoing Debate on Sports Betting

S26 E12 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 02/25/19

Bail Reform

S26 E11 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/18/19

Medical Marijuana

S26 E10 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/04/19

Recapping the Start of the 2019 General Assembly

S26 E8 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/14/19

2019 General Assembly

S26 E7 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 01/07/19

Special Session on Pensions/Education Issues

S26 E6 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 12/17/18

Medicaid in Kentucky

S26 E5 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 12/10/18

Immigration Issues

S26 E4 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 12/03/18

Mass Shootings, Gun Safety, and Concealed Carry Laws

S26 E3 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/19/18

Recap of Election 2018

S26 E2 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 11/13/18

Election 2018 Preview

S26 E1 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 11/05/18

See All Episodes

caret down

TV Schedules

Jump to Recent Airdates


2024 Legislative Session Preview - S30 E33

Renee Shaw hosts a 2024 legislative session preview. Scheduled guests: State Representative Chad Aull (D-Lexington); State Representative Stephanie Dietz (R-Edgewood); State Senator Cassie Chambers Armstrong (D-Louisville); and State Senator Amanda Mays Bledsoe (R- Lexington). A 2023 KET production.

  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 11:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 10:00 pm CT on KETKY
  • Wednesday December 6, 2023 1:00 am ET on KET
  • Wednesday December 6, 2023 12:00 am CT on KET
  • Wednesday December 6, 2023 6:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Wednesday December 6, 2023 5:00 pm CT on KETKY

Kentucky Tonight - S30 E34

  • Monday December 18, 2023 8:00 pm ET on KET
  • Monday December 18, 2023 7:00 pm CT on KET
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 6:00 am ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 5:00 am CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 2:30 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 1:30 pm CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 11:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 19, 2023 10:00 pm CT on KETKY
  • Wednesday December 20, 2023 2:00 am ET on KET
  • Wednesday December 20, 2023 1:00 am CT on KET
  • Wednesday December 20, 2023 6:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Wednesday December 20, 2023 5:00 pm CT on KETKY
Jump to Upcoming Airdates


2024 Legislative Session Preview - S30 E33

  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 2:30 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 1:30 pm CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 6:00 am ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday December 5, 2023 5:00 am CT on KETKY
  • Monday December 4, 2023 8:00 pm ET on KET
  • Monday December 4, 2023 7:00 pm CT on KET

2024 Legislative Preview - S30 E32

  • Wednesday November 22, 2023 6:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Wednesday November 22, 2023 5:00 pm CT on KETKY
  • Wednesday November 22, 2023 1:36 am ET on KET
  • Wednesday November 22, 2023 12:36 am CT on KET
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 11:00 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 10:00 pm CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 2:30 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 1:30 pm CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 6:00 am ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 21, 2023 5:00 am CT on KETKY
  • Monday November 20, 2023 8:00 pm ET on KET
  • Monday November 20, 2023 7:00 pm CT on KET

2023 Election - S30 E31

  • Tuesday November 7, 2023 2:30 pm ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 7, 2023 1:30 pm CT on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 7, 2023 6:00 am ET on KETKY
  • Tuesday November 7, 2023 5:00 am CT on KETKY
  • Monday November 6, 2023 8:00 pm ET on KET
  • Monday November 6, 2023 7:00 pm CT on KET


Explore KET