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Analyzing the 2020 Election and State Politics

Renee Shaw and political operatives dissect the results of the November election. Guests: David Tandy, attorney and former Louisville Metro Council President; Amy Wickliffe, lobbyist and partner at McCarthy Strategic Solutions; Ellen Williams, political consultant and former chair of the Republican Party of Kentucky; and Sherman Brown, political advisor and partner at McCarthy Strategic Solutions.
Season 27 Episode 40 Length 56:33 Premiere: 11/09/20

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KET’s Kentucky Tonight, hosted by Renee Shaw, brings together an expert panel for in-depth analysis of major issues facing the Commonwealth.

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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Republicans Solidify Their Power in Frankfort with Election Gains

While the fight over the presidential vote count continues, the results in Kentucky left little doubt about the dominance of the GOP in the commonwealth.

“We had a great night,” says political consultant Ellen Williams, who is a former chair of the Republican Party of Kentucky.

In addition to giving solid victories to President Donald Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and the state’s five Republican incumbents in Congress, Kentuckians also delivered even greater majorities to Republicans in the state Senate and House of Representatives. The GOP is on track to hold 75 out of 100 seats in the House, and 30 of 38 seats in the Senate.

Democrats had hoped to make gains in the House with crucial wins in Jefferson and Fayette Counties. But that didn’t happen. Louisville Republican Jason Nemes kept his seat in the 33rd House district. Democrats also lost House district 44 in Jefferson County, which had been held for one term by Maria Sorolis. Democrats lost another potential pick up in Lexington’s House District 45: Republican Killian Timoney won the seat held for nearly 20 years by conservative Stan Lee, who is retiring.

Williams says Republicans flipped seven seats held by Democrats who retired, and GOP candidates defeated six Democratic incumbents. Lobbyist Amy Wickliffe says Democrats drew those districts, so the fact that Republicans can win there bodes well for the party that will oversee the next round of redistricting in the state.

State Republicans enjoyed having President Trump and Sen. McConnell at the top of the ballot to help boost down-ballot candidates. But Wickliffe, who is a partner in the governmental relations firm McCarthy Strategic Solutions, says those coattails didn’t do all the work.

“Does Trump help in some rural parts of the state? Sure,” she says. “But I also give credit to those candidates. They run like they’re 10 points down every single day and keep their heads down and focused on winning.”

The Republican caucuses in Frankfort will also be more diverse, according to Williams. She points to the addition of four women and a number of younger lawmakers to GOP ranks. Wickliffe says those fresh perspectives will add a new energy to policy debates.

Messaging and Majorities

Williams credits the steady Republican gains in the state over the last 20 years to candidate recruitment, consistent messaging, effective leadership, and strong fundraising. She also says state Democrats have a difficult time separating themselves from unpopular national figures like U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“She’s the gift that keeps on giving,” says Williams. “We use [Pelosi] in our state House races here, so as long as that national Democrat agenda continues to stay far left, I think Kentucky Republicans continue to win.”

When it comes to defining issues and candidates, Democratic campaign consultant Sherman Brown agrees that Republicans have the upper hand.

“I think our messaging has been lackluster to say the least,” he says.

The GOP has used phrases like “Green New Deal” and “defund the police” to pummel Democrats, according to David Tandy, an attorney and former president of the Louisville Metro Council. He says Democrats need to be more aggressive about framing issues in ways that directly relate to voters’ lives and use language they will understand.

“We get too scared of taking on a fight,” says Tandy. “If you’re a Kentucky Democrat, you need to speak to people, their aspirations, and where they are... Everybody wants to have a good-paying job, they want to feel safe in their neighborhoods... and they want to feel like their kids could have a better opportunity for the future.”

Although Republicans will continue to control the state House and Senate, Tandy warns that majorities don’t last forever. He says the electorate can quickly turn on a party in power if they fail to deliver on their promises.

“There will come a time where Democrats in Kentucky will regain the House,” says Tandy. “I can’t look into my crystal ball and tell you exactly when that’s going to happen, but know that it will happen at some point in time because situations change.”

“It does swing and you must never take a win for granted,” adds Williams. “You must never think that that seat is a Republican seat, because it’s the people’s seat.”

Legislative Agendas for 2021

So what will Republicans do with their super-sized majorities in Frankfort during the upcoming 30-day legislative session?

Williams and Wickliffe expect education spending and broadband internet service to be priorities in the state budget. They also foresee legislation to help the economy recover from the coronavirus pandemic, address unemployment insurance expenses, create liability protections for businesses, and limit executive actions taken by governors during an emergency.

“You’re going to see our supermajorities look to refine the executive authority of the [governor] from the standpoint of extent and duration of the orders,” says Williams.

“How long can a state of emergency go on without any check and balance from the legislature?” adds Wickliffe.

For Democrats the challenge is to find relevance in a capitol dominated by Republicans.

“Your job then is to be the conscience of that legislative body,” says Tandy.

That includes raising opposing points of view and forcing Republicans to respond to them, he says. Although Democrats may be small in number, Tandy hopes GOP leaders will listen to ideas that come from the minority party “because you don’t know where good ideas are going to come from.”

Brown says Democrats can also build coalitions with groups of GOP lawmakers around specific issues on which they can agree, such as criminal justice reform.

As for leadership in the chambers, Democrats need to select a new Minority Caucus Chair in the Senate, following the defeat of Johnny Ray Turner (D-Prestonsburg) last week. In the House, Republicans still await the return of Majority Floor Leader John Bam Carney (R-Campbellsville), who has battled health problems since last Christmas.

Voting in the Presidential Race

Kentucky’s Mitch McConnell took a strong stand for President Trump on Monday, saying the incumbent is “100 percent within his rights to look into allegations of irregularities” in the vote count in the presidential election. The Trump campaign’s legal team has brought challenges in several states over results in the contest with Democrat Joe Biden.

Williams and Wickliffe say they support the president’s right to challenge the results, but that he must also provide valid evidence of fraud or illegal behavior.

“Those all deserve to be thoroughly examined, and that’s important for everyone so that we trust the process,” says Wickliffe. But she adds that “at the end of the day I don’t think what happens in Pennsylvania or any of these other states are going to ultimately change the outcome of the race… I believe that President-elect Biden will assume the presidency.”

Requesting recounts and filing legal challenges is one thing, says Brown. But he adds that alleging widespread fraud without proof is very different.

“When you have a president saying the election is being stolen... that undermines our democracy and I think that has to be addressed,” says Brown. “You have to have Republicans come out and say, ‘That part’s not right.’”

Much of the attention has focused on Pennsylvania, where President Trump had a substantial lead on election night. But as officials there processed mailed-in ballots after Election Day, the president’s advantage evaporated and former Vice President Joe Biden took the lead. President Trump has said winners should be determined the night of the elections, not days later. Tandy says the counting issue points to a key difference in how states process ballots received by mail.

“What Kentucky got right that Pennsylvania did not is that in Kentucky, our election officials were allowed to start processing ballots before Election Day,” says Tandy.

As part of an agreement made by Secretary of State Michael Adams, a Republican, and Gov. Andy Beshear, a Democrat, voters in the general election had the options of no-excuse absentee balloting and a three-week window to vote early in person. The panelists say they hope the legislature will codify some version of those measures into state law so that Kentuckians can continue to enjoy that level of flexibility in future elections.

If the presidential race is ultimately certified with Biden as the winner, Williams says she thinks the Democrat will work well with his former Senate colleague Mitch McConnell.

“It was Biden who McConnell worked with during the Obama Administration,” says Williams. “So I think we’ll see a lot of good work come from Biden and McConnell because of the years of friendship and relationship they’ve had in the Senate.”

A President Biden will have to manage not just COVID-19 and the economic recovery from the pandemic, but potential challenges from the far-left wing of his own party.

“Democrats love to just argue amongst ourselves,” says Brown. “It is a big tent, we have a lot of different voices right now... so he’s got his work cut out for him.”

Biden would also inherit a deeply divided country. Tandy says he hopes Americans of opposing political parties can get back to seeing each other as brothers and sisters, not as enemies. Wickliffe agrees, but she also fears that restoring empathy and respect among voters will take a while.

“What we have to remember is that we did not get here overnight, and so it’s going to take a little bit of time to walk back and to try to find commonalities,” says Wickliffe. “I think we so often forget to see the good in people and try to find what we have in common with people… It’s on all of us in Kentucky and across the nation to start to make those changes.”

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Reopening Kentucky Classrooms During a Coronavirus Surge

S27 E43 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 12/07/20

COVID-19's Impact on Kentucky's Health Care System

S27 E42 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 11/23/20

Understanding the Grand Jury System

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Analyzing the 2020 Election and State Politics

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2020 Election Eve Preview

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Kentucky's U.S. Senate Race

S27 E38 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/26/20

Legislative Leaders Preview the 2020 General Election

S27 E37 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 10/19/20

Issues Affecting Kentucky's 4th Congressional District

S27 E36 Length 26:33 Premiere Date 10/12/20

Issues Affecting Kentucky's 3rd Congressional District

S27 E35 Length 26:31 Premiere Date 10/05/20

Previewing the 2020 General Election

S27 E34 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 09/28/20

Special Education, Student Mental Health and COVID-19

S27 E33 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/21/20

Challenges and Benefits of Remote Learning in Kentucky

S27 E32 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 09/14/20

The Impact of COVID-19 on Kentucky's Tourism Industry

S27 E31 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 08/03/20

COVID-19's Impact on Higher Education in Kentucky

S27 E30 Length 56:35 Premiere Date 07/27/20

Reopening Kentucky's Schools

S27 E29 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 07/20/20

Racial Disparities in K-12 Public Education

S27 E28 Length 56:27 Premiere Date 07/13/20

Police Reform Issues

S27 E27 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 06/29/20

Previewing the 2020 Primary Election

S27 E26 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/22/20

Kentucky Tonight: State of Unrest

S27 E25 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/15/20

2020 Primary Election Candidates, Part Four

S27 E24 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/08/20

2020 Primary Election Candidates, Part Three

S27 E22 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/01/20

2020 Primary Election Candidates, Part Two

S27 E21 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 06/01/20

2020 Primary Election Candidates, Part One

S27 E20 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 05/27/20

Reopening Rules for Restaurants and Retail

S27 E19 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 05/18/20

Debating Steps to Restart Kentucky's Economy

S27 E18 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 05/11/20

COVID-19's Impact on Primary Voting and Local Governments

S27 E17 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 05/04/20

Reopening Kentucky's Economy

S27 E16 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 04/27/20

Wrapping Up the General Assembly and a COVID-19 Update

S27 E14 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 04/13/20

Health, Legal and Voting Issues During the COVID-19 Outbreak

S27 E12 Length 57:23 Premiere Date 03/30/20

Kentucky's Response to the COVID-19 Pandemic

S27 E11 Length 58:03 Premiere Date 03/23/20

Finding Agreement on State Budget Issues

S27 E10 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 03/16/20

Election and Voting Legislation

S27 E9 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 03/09/20

State Budget

S27 E8 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 02/24/20

Debating State Budget Priorities

S27 E7 Length 56:34 Premiere Date 02/17/20

Medical Marijuana

S27 E6 Length 56:33 Premiere Date 02/10/20

Sports Betting Legislation

S27 E5 Length 56:36 Premiere Date 02/03/20

2020 Kentucky General Assembly

S27 E2 Length 56:37 Premiere Date 01/13/20

2020 Kentucky General Assembly

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